Liesen Line Trick is not a Dom, it's a Codom... Super Trick

Listed as and thought to be a Dom gene, has now been proven to be a Codom. Keven Winter has provided me with these pictures of the Super Trick out of the Liesen Line. From what he is telling me, it's getting brighter with age.

Enjoy

Liesen Line Trick Ball and Lesser Trick Ball




Liesen Line Super Trick

Very neat. I don't know much about it, but I thought it was a special line of a black pastel gene, but the super says something different.

Originally Posted by Focal

Very neat. I don't know much about it, but I thought it was a special line of a black pastel gene, but the super says something different.

It's rather neat. Kevin Winter and partners in this project were hoping it wasn't going to be a all white snake. So when this super was produced, it really changed the idea of this morph.

Nick I do beleive it came in attached to the Black Pastel gene, and that it took a number of years to isolate it. However I'm alittle skeptical of that being a super, I don't see an almost completely yellowless snake turning out like a superpastel in color. I have been wrong many times before. Any info on the sire and dam? I'd bet at least one has pastel in it. Very interesting new gene though.

Originally Posted by MrBig

Nick I do beleive it came in attached to the Black Pastel gene, and that it took a number of years to isolate it. However I'm alittle skeptical of that being a super, I don't see an almost completely yellowless snake turning out like a superpastel in color. I have been wrong many times before. Any info on the sire and dam? I'd bet at least one has pastel in it. Very interesting new gene though.

Ahh, gotcha. That makes sense.

Originally Posted by MrBig

Any info on the sire and dam?

was it a trick to a trick and no other gene involved?

Originally Posted by MrBig

Nick I do beleive it came in attached to the Black Pastel gene, and that it took a number of years to isolate it. However I'm alittle skeptical of that being a super, I don't see an almost completely yellowless snake turning out like a superpastel in color. I have been wrong many times before. Any info on the sire and dam? I'd bet at least one has pastel in it. Very interesting new gene though.

Sending an email to answer some of these questions.

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Originally Posted by MrBig

Nick I do beleive it came in attached to the Black Pastel gene, and that it took a number of years to isolate it. However I'm alittle skeptical of that being a super, I don't see an almost completely yellowless snake turning out like a superpastel in color. I have been wrong many times before. Any info on the sire and dam? I'd bet at least one has pastel in it. Very interesting new gene though.

What I was told it was a pick up that was imported from Africa

When I looked into them, was considering getting in on the project, I remember that it came in attached to another morph, wither Black pastel or maybe just pastel. I also remember reading on Leisen's site, that he had successfully isolated it for the first time a couple years ago. I am in no way shape or form an expert, but I did diligent research when I looked into the line originally.

Is it wrong that i like the base better then the "super" anyway? I will admit that the lesser trick is sick. Hahaha I made a funny. Really would love some info on the pairing and clutchmates of the super that you posted. It seeming to be a dom gene at first is the main reason I decided not to get into this project.