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Old 09-19-2011, 02:11 PM   #1
fattielumpkin
Anyone still into locality pits...

or is it all morphs these days?

If you have pure locality animals post them.

I am in the process of acquiring a pair of F1 Cochise Co. Arizona Sonoran Gophers.
 
Old 09-19-2011, 04:11 PM   #2
DISCERN
Heck ya, I am into locality.

Ocean Co, NJ northern pine.
Kingsville, TX red bull.
Davis Mtn. bullsnake (intergrade possibly)
Stillwater, OK hypo bullsnake.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:12 PM   #3
fattielumpkin
nice snakes!
 
Old 09-19-2011, 04:59 PM   #4
DISCERN
Thanks Adrian! Please post pics of your Sonoran gophers when you get them!
 
Old 09-20-2011, 04:13 PM   #5
Lucas339
as usual discern, nice animals!!
 
Old 09-20-2011, 05:35 PM   #6
DISCERN
Thanks Lucas!
 
Old 10-02-2011, 11:11 PM   #7
D. Mong
Awesome stuff William!

Man, that Kingsville ain't just sort'a red,...it's RED!!



~Doug
 
Old 10-03-2011, 01:39 AM   #8
DISCERN
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Originally Posted by D. Mong View Post
Awesome stuff William!

Man, that Kingsville ain't just sort'a red,...it's RED!!



~Doug
Thanks my friend!
 
Old 11-08-2011, 08:20 PM   #9
Chris Kennard
Damn...

Nice stuff, Billy! Is the last pic a Stillwater? It seems to have more white scales than most Stillwaters I've seen. I like that. Maybe you could expand on that through selective breeding. I have a few Kanks from Phil Peak and just got some Indiana black bulls(Jasper county) from Daniel Parker. I will eventually try to get pics up. I've always been drawn more toward the darker northern bulls. I like the contrast. If I may, I would like to start a potentially interesting discussion. A good friend of mine, and science teacher to boot, and I had a discussion regarding the pallidness of southern bulls as opposed to the darker northerns. He avers that it has to do with temps in respected environments(cooler in the north, hotter in the south). I disagree! I think most animals are engineered to survive through camoflage. More pallid to match the more open sands of the southern regions of bulls and darker in the north to blend in with the leaflitter and shade from the trees. Harder to spot??? Have at it!
 
Old 11-08-2011, 08:32 PM   #10
Chris Kennard
My two cents first?

Snakes, when it gets to a temp warmer than they "like", will seek shelter underground where it is cooler, yes? When would you see a bull "exploring" in Texas? I would think that you would have a better chance of catching one when the sands start cooling off a bit. Perhaps early in the morning or late in the day. Northerns would most likely take advantage of the warm daytime temps when the sun is struggling to get through the foliage where they wait in ambush for unsuspecting prey. I suspect that many of their prey items in the wild are in synch with the serpents schedule. Any thoughts?
 

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