Animal Kingdom/Safwat abdel naiem- LEGITIMATE BUSINESS?

I frequently buy and sell on many internet forums, and I received an offer from this "company" who got my e-mail address of one of the websites a few months ago. I believe they are an importer/exporter of reptiles and exotic mammals and only wholesale to legitimate businesses. I am interested in some of the animals they have for sale, however, I am hesitant to buy from them without further information. I would like to know if anyone in this forum has ever done business or attempted to do business with Safwat or anyone else from Animal Kingdom. Their contact information is as follows-

Name: Safwat abdel naiem
Tel/Fax: 202-798-6355
E-mail: animalkingdom_eg@hotmail.com

Any information will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Jennifer Webb
(Jungle Gems)

This is just a guess, as I have never heard of them.

I would BET they are a bs scam, if nothing else based on the email address. I dont think very many legitimate business use a hotmail account, atleast none that I can think of that I would trust.

I may be way off on this, but its always been my belief a business running on a hotmail account is a scam waiting to happen. I personally skip right over them.

Just my OPINION.

Not that there aren't a few great businesses out there still using hotmail as their means to communicate via e-mail, most site-owners are now going to E-mail provided by their Domain Name Host. I use Network Solutions as my Domain Name Host and their e-mail for a 2.00 extra monthly payment. Privacy is totally worth the little money you spend. Keep the comments coming... I'd like to know if Animal Kingdom has any credibility whatsoever as they certainly seem impressive if they are being truthful.

Thanks!

Jennifer Webb

Did they send you a long email about how they are from Africa and will be sending someone to your home for the animals?

I get one of these a week for each of the animals I see (from gerbils to chipmunks). I fully believe it's a scam, if that is the nature of the email they sent you......

First off ordering from an export in another country is not the same as ordering from a wholesaler here in the US. Jennifer, whether this guy is legitimate or not are you familiar with and know all the laws pertaining to importation? I have said this countless times before to people that see the prices and think it is a great deal. If you are not familiar with the paperwork, requirements, and cost involved with importation feel free to e-mail me and I will let you know.

I'm NOT vouching for anybody, but it is quite common in egypt for small companies to have a hotmail or yahoo account.
Just imagine that you have to multiply the fees for your webserver times 6.30 (1 USD = 6.30 EGP) .
Again, I don't know anything about the guy. just stating a fact.
c ya
amin

I would say it is a Nigerian scam. What was the email like that they sent you? That is usually the tell all.

It's definatly not nigerian. I made a google search and he has an egyptian address, phone and mobile phone number.

Interesting.
I guess it will take the body of the email to show us if it is real or not.

...hope this helps.

Dear sir,
here is our pric list . we hope this season can do business to gether . we
wait your soon order .
Hope to hear from you
again.
Best regards
Safwat abdel naiem
'' Price list of reptiles ''
Animal kingdom TEL & FAX + 2027986355 ?Mob 010-6489795

Scientific Name Common Name Unit Price$
Cyrtopodion scaber Rough skinned Geeko 1.00
Bunopus tuberculatus Blanford's Geeko 1.00
Hemidactylus flavivridis Coeteau Geeko 1.25
Hemidactylus t .turcicus Turkish Geeko 0.80
Btyodactylys h.hasselquesti Fan footed Geeko 1.00
Stenobactylus petrii Petrie's Geeko 1.00
Stenobactylu s.sthenodactylu Elegant Geeko 0.90
Tarentola a.annularis Egyptian Geeko 1.00
Tarentola m.mauritanica Moorish Geeko 0.95
Trobiocolotes steudneri Steudner's Geeko 0.75
Trobiocolotes nattereri Natterer's Geeko 0.75
Trobiocolotes t.tripolitanus Tripoli Geeko 0.80
Agama a.spinosa Gray's Agama 4.00
Trapelus mutapilis Changeable Agama 1.25
Trapelus savignyi Savigny's Agama 1.50
Psaudotrapelus sinaitus Sinai Agama 1.25
Laudakia stellio Starred Agama 2.50
Trapelus Pallida Pale Agama 1.75
Uromastyx aegyptius Egyptian Dabb Lizard
Uromastyx ocellatus ocellaus Eyed Dabb Lizard
Uromastyx ocellatus ornatus Ornate Dabb Lizard
Acanthodactylus boskianus Bosc's Lizard 1.00
Acanthodactylus arabicus Arbic Lizard 1.00
Acanthodactylus pardilis Egyptian Leopard Lizard 1.00
Acanthodactylus scutellatus Nidua Lizard 0.90
Acanthodactylus Longipes Long Footed Lizard 0.90
Eremias bervirostris Arabian Lizard 0.80
Mesalina g.guttulata Small spotted Lizard 0.95
Eremias mucronata Anseda Lizard 0.90
Mesalina rubropunctata Red spotted Lizard 1.25
Latastia l.longicaudata Long tailed Lizard 1.00
Mesalina Pasteuri Sahara Lizard 1.00
Ophisops elegans Menetries's Lizard 3.00
Ablepharua kitabeli Hungarian Skink 2.00
Chalcidies o.ocellatus Eyed Skink 0.75
Sphenobs sepsoiidies Audouin's Sand Skink 0.90
Eumeces schneideri Gold Skink 3.00
Mabuya q.quinquetaniata Bean Skink 1.00
Mabuya vittatus Bridled Skink 1.50

Scincus s.scincus Sand Fish
Chamaeleo chamaeleo European Chamaeleon
Chamaeleo africanus African Chamaeleon
Chamaeleo musae Sinai Chamaeleon
Typhlops vermicuaris Greek Blind Snake 3.00
Leptotphlops cairi Cairo Earth Snake 3.00
Leptotphlops macrorhnchus Beaked thread Snake 4.00
Eryx c.colubrinus Theban Sand boa
Eryx j.jaculus Javelin Sand boa
Coluber elegantisimus Legant Snake 5.00
Coluber florulentus Flowered Snake 5.00
Coluber ravergieri Raverg Snake 4.00
Coluber r.rhodorhachis Jan's Desert Racer 5.00
Coluber rogersi Roger's Snake 5.00
Coluber Sinai Sinai Banded Snake 5.00
Dasypltis scaber Egg eating Snake 25.00
Lytorhynchus diadema Diademed Sand Snake 5.00
Macroprotodon cucullaatus Mediterranean hooded Snake 4.00
Malpolon moilonsis Moila Snake 4.00
Malpolon monspessulana Montpelier Snake 4.00
Natrix tesselata Dieed Water Snake 3.75
Psammophis s.schokri Sehokari Sand Snake 4.00
Psammophis s.aegyptius Saharan Sand Snake 5.00
Psammophis s.sibilans African Beauty Snake 5.00
Spalerosophis Diademe Clifford's Snake 5.00
Telescopus dhara obtusus Egyptian Cat Snake 7.00
Naja h.haie Egyptian Cobra 25.00
Naja n.nigricollis Spitting Cobra 35.00
Walterinnesia aegyptio Inne's Cobra 75.00
Atractaspis engaddensis Palestinian Mole Viper
Cerastes cerastes Horned Viper 10.00
Cerastes vipera Lesser Cerastes Viper 5.00
Echis carinatus Saw Scaled Viper 14.00
Echis coloratus Burton's Horned Viper 16.00
Pseudocerastes persicus fieldi Fieeld's Horned Viper 73.00
Crocodylus niloticus Nile Crocodile
Testudo kleinmanni Egyptian Tortois
Testudo greaca Greaca Tortois

'' Price list of mammals & inscts & amphibian ''

Animal kingdom TEL & FAX + 2027986355 ?Mob 010-6489795

Scientific name '' mammals'' Common Name Unit Price$
Hemiechinus auritus aegyptius Long Eared Hedgehog 5.00
Hemiechinus auritus libycus Desert Hedgehog 7.00
Paraeachinusa aethiopicus Ethiopian Hedgehog 9.00
Paraeachinusa deserti deserti South Sinai Hedgehog 6.00
Lepus capensis sinaiticus Sinai Hare 50.00
Lepus capensis aegyptius Cape Hare 50.00
Gerbillusp floweri Anderson's Gerbil 5.00
Gerbillusp pyramidum Greater Gerbil 4.00
Gerbillusp gedeedus Bayoudi 5.00
Gerbillusp aegyptius Pallid Gerbil 5.00
Dipodillus cambestris batrisi Large North African Dipodil 5.00
Dipodillus amoenus Charming Dipodil 5.00
Dipodillus simony kaiseri Simon's Dipodil 5.00
Sekeetamys c.makrami Bushy Tailed Dipodil 20.00
Rattus norvegicus Norway Rat 5.00
Mus muscuhus aegyptia House Mouse 5.00
Suncus Morinus House Shrew 15.00
Acomys r.russatus Gold Spiny Mouse 6.00
Crocidura Flavescens Giant Shrew 15.00
Crocidura Nana Dwarf Shrew 10.00
Acomys c.cahirinus Spiny Mouse 4.00
Acomys russatus aegyptia Spiny Egytian 3.00
Nesokia indica cuilla Shotrt Tailed Bandicoot Rat 40.00
Eliomys quercinus melanurus Golden Dor Mouse 20.00
Alactaga tetradctyla Four Toed Jerboa 12.00
Jaculus o.orientalis Greater Egyptian Jerboa 8.00
Jaculus j.schluteri Schluteri Jerboa 7.00
Jaculus j.flavillus Flavillus Jerboa 7.00
Jaculus j. Jaculus Lesser Egyptian Jerboa 6.00
Vulpes Vulpes Red Fox
Vulpes zerda Fennec Fox
Poecilictes l.lipyca Libyan Striped Weasel 20.00


Seientifie Name Common Name Unit Price$
Tadarida Aegyptian Tailed Bat 5 .00
Otonycteris Hemprichii Eared Bat 5.00
Procavia cabensis syriaca Hyrax (coney) 60.00
Rousettus a.agyptiacus Egyptian Fruit Bat 5.00
Rhinonoma m.microphyllum Tailed Bat 6.00
Nycterist thebaica Faced Bat 5.00
Rhinolophusc. Cliyosus Shoe Bat 5.00
Rhinolophusc hipposideros Horse Shoe Bat 6.00
Asellia t.trident Nosed Trident Bat 5.00
Pipistrellus aegyptis Egyptian Pipistrelle 6.00
Taphozous .aegyptiaca Tailed Bat 5.00
Plecotus austriacus Eared Bat 5.00
Barpastella barbastellus Barbastella Bat 6.00
Nycticeius schlieffenii Nycticeius Bat 6.00
" amphibian " ȑ㇆·› Unit price $
Seientific Name Common Name
Hyla savignyi abrown Tree Frog 2.50
Bufo r.rejularis Egyptian Square- Marked Toad 0.75
Bufo v.viridis Green Toad 0.95
Ptuchadena m.mascareniensis Mascarene Frog 0.75
Rana ridibunda Lake Frog 0.95
" inscts "͔¬éʉ Unit price $
Seientific Name Common Name
Leiurus quinquestriatus 1.25
Buthus leptochyluds 1.50
Buthus occitanus 1.25
Androctonus amoreuxi 1.50
Androctonus australis 1.50
Androctonus picolor 2.00
Androctonus crasicauda 2.25
Scorpio maurus 1.50
Scarabidae " big " 1.00
Scarabidae " small " 0.75
Galeodes spider 1.50
Centipedes 1.00
Solifugae spider 1.25
Nindicrorio 1.00
Peetles spp 0.50
millipedes 1.00
Praying mantis 0.75



Thanks,

Jennifer Webb
(Jungle Gems)

PS- To the person who inquired about my experience with importing/exporting... I have none, however, I DID go to this board to get information about these guys and was hoping that someone could tell me what "Animal Kingdom" is all about. I was not, and still am not sure sure how they do business... if they import the animals themselves and THEN sell them (a la Zoological Imports 2000 which IS a great company and I have purchased from them many times) or if they are based out of another country, which it appears they are. First I wanted to find out if Animal Kingdom is even legitimate and then go from there. I appreciate your offer for help and will definitely be taking you up on that in the future.