Provent a mite

I have been curious as to whether or not PAM and BK II are the same ingredients? I've had a can of BK II for awhile now, but I'm wondering if PAM or the Equate would be better?

Looks like the active ingredient in BK II is Phenothrin 2.00%

Nope, they're different. PAM and Equate are Permethrin at 0.5%

Originally Posted by Mokele

No, let it stay, but you MUST let any of these products dry COMPLETELY before returning the reptile to their cage. In liquid form, these sprays are toxic, but once dry, they're harmless to reptiles and will remain so.

I'd like to add that I've used both Provent-a-mite and Equate on mite outbreaks in the same facility, and found both to have equal effect.

Like mentioned above, Provent A Mite is the only product tested and approved for reptiles. The other stuff you are mentioning has not been tested on reptiles and you do not know the long term effects.

IMO, it just gives me the peace of mind to use Provent a Mite.

I would never use an untested product in my collection. Provent-A-Mite is safe. Other permethrin products may not be. Why?

For one example, piperonyl butoxide, which is not an active ingredient but IS found in some similar-seeming products, IS associated with snake mortality.

Unless you really, REALLY know what every single ingredient is and does, and whether it is specifically safe for snakes...why on earth would you risk it?

Originally Posted by WingedWolf

I would never use an untested product in my collection. Provent-A-Mite is safe. Other permethrin products may not be. Why?

For one example, piperonyl butoxide, which is not an active ingredient but IS found in some similar-seeming products, IS associated with snake mortality.

Unless you really, REALLY know what every single ingredient is and does, and whether it is specifically safe for snakes...why on earth would you risk it?

Very well said.......PAM works and is safe if used correctly. Why take a chance?

How come no one talks about Reptile Relief? That is the only thing I use when we have mites.

Mokele, you say that in liquid form, these sprays are toxic. So what form is it in then when spraying out of the bottle and onto your snake?

PAM, equate, BKII, etc are NOT meant to be sprayed on the animal. They are sprayed in the enclosure & allowed to dry before placing the animal back inside.

Well, because Reptile Relief only kills mites if you spray it on them. Which is fine, if you use it along with PAM. But you have to keep spraying it around until you get them all. With PAM, you treat the bin, and mites that enter it die, period. So do the larvae, when the eggs hatch. (Reptile Relief doesn't kill eggs--nothing does).

If you were to use Reptile Relief alone, it would be a longer and less certain process. I think people don't mention it as one of the best options for that reason, but many people mention using it along with PAM or BK, since it's a quick way to kill any mites actually on the snake. PAM prevents any others that are wandering around (and they wander like crazy) from reaching the snake. You could have mites in your curtains, if you had them in your collection, and they could find their way back to your snake. If the bin/cage was treated with PAM, they die when they enter it.

i wouldnt use that stuff he got from walmart because its stronger and it made for something different. Provent a mite you can use right on the bedding and wait a little bit and wait for it to try and then put the snake right on top of it with out anything going wrong. Im using provent a mite right now and it works fine. i rather spend more money on something that i know that wont kill my snake then some cheap crap you get a walmart. i wont trust anything you get a walmart. you can find provent a mite on big apple, or just go on kingsnake.com

i'm going to go with equate bedding spray. not only did rick from rustysballs say he uses it, but lori/brian from bhb told me they use it as well rather than provent-a-mite. that was a good enough reason for me.