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Old 06-09-2008, 09:59 PM   #11
RJK890
Dictate, lol.

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You also can not dictate who says what or links what in any thread. Being that Capone is PowerHouse Reptiles and the title of this thread says "PowerHouse Reptiles," it is completely valid to post links to threads involving him.
I do not care who says what. If you feel it is valid to post the links to Joe Capones other threads, and you obviously did, that is fine. I was just saying it would be nice if the Joe Capone lynching could be done in any one of those other threads. The title of this one is "Clark Tucker of Power House Reptiles."

I have read enough here to understand why many invested breeders dislike Joe. Depending on which version of the Legacy of Joe Capone you hear, He either came into the industry with a million dollars and mass produced morphs selling them well below standard market value. Otherwise, He had no more than 250 normals at any given time, used smoke and mirrors to pre sell more animals than he could produce, and then had other breeders selling to him at the prices that he set way below market value, in order for him to fill his orders.

I don't know which story is true, or if either one is completely accurate and really don't care. Either way I don't see the problem. It is a free market! I am not a rich man, and am married with seven children. I look forward to having a Blue Eyed Lucy, Pied LA, and many other high end BP's. If Joe can produce and sell enough morphs to recoup his investment, and make enough profit to cover overhead and live off of, by selling his animals at a price much lower than market value, why is that a problem? Heck, if He can make the morphs I want available at a price I can afford and still feed my kids, I say, Thanks Joe!

How many of you put foreign gasoline in your Japanese vehicle? Then you are in business with, or at least fund and support that Venezuelan scumbag dictator Chavez, the Saudis, and the country that gave us Pearl Harbor. How many of you buy products from China? Guilty by association.
BTW, if you are a contributing member of Fauna you also fund and support the web site that Joe Capone advertises his animals for sale on. Not only that but you advertise on the classified section that he is a sponsor of. I guess one way or another you support him, and are a business associate of his . Get real.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:05 PM   #12
KelliH
Who owns Powerhouse Reptiles?
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:10 PM   #13
SPJ
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Originally Posted by KelliH
Who owns Powerhouse Reptiles?
Joe the used car salesman Capone owne Powerhouse Reptiles.

Clarks Geckos is the business that Clark Tucker owns. He brokers animals for Powerhouse aka Joe.

To me, I could care less if Capone was selling BEL's for $1. It's his attitude and the way he presented himself that would make me avoid him.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:22 PM   #14
hhmoore
[quote=SPJ]Clarks Geckos is the business that Clark Tucker owns. He brokers animals for Powerhouse aka Joe.QUOTE]
Hmmm, maybe it semantics, or just the way my mind works lately....is he really "brokering" for Joe if he has all the animals? Yes, there is a business relationship - which they don't seem to be hiding - but if the whole BP operation is at Clark's, I don't see him as brokering.
Could just be me .
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:25 PM   #15
RJK890
Steve,
I think Clark is more than just a broker, I believe he is a partner. I never met Joe so can't comment about his attitude or how he presents himself. However, I did meet Clark Tucker and he is not an A hole. He was great to deal with, and I received top quality snakes.
If Clark is keeping, caring for, and breeding Joe's BP's and selling the quality offspring for unbeatable prices while providing professional customer service and shipping, does it really matter if Joe Capone is financing the business?
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:27 PM   #16
Cat_72
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Originally Posted by RJK890
Steve,
I think Clark is more than just a broker, I believe he is a partner. I never met Joe so can't comment about his attitude or how he presents himself. However, I did meet Clark Tucker and he is not an A hole. He was great to deal with, and I received top quality snakes.
If Clark is keeping, caring for, and breeding Joe's BP's and selling the quality offspring for unbeatable prices while providing professional customer service and shipping, does it really matter if Joe Capone is financing the business?
It does if you care what kind of person your money is going to.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:45 PM   #17
SPJ
My mistake. I thought the high end animals were being brokered for Joe.

Doesn't matter anyway to me. I don't care for Joe based on how he was in his videos and the way he spoke to various people online.

I guess it's guilt by association. I wouldn't buy from someone who was partnered with or brokering for Capone. There are a lot of other sellers out there that don't give off a sleezeball used car saleman vibe to make a purchase from.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:47 PM   #18
John E Dove
Is this Joe the Used Car Salesman who was going to drive everyone out of business a couple years ago then had a tiff with the real brains behind the operation and vanished?
Now he is starting up again with another stooge to do the work for him?
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:50 PM   #19
SPJ
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Originally Posted by John E Dove
Is this Joe the Used Car Salesman who was going to drive everyone out of business a couple years ago then had a tiff with the real brains behind the operation and vanished?
Now he is starting up again with another stooge to do the work for him?
That's him.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:57 PM   #20
RJK890
Whatever Cat

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Originally Posted by Cat72:
It does if you care what kind of person your money is going to.
I don't!... and neither do you!

Anyway, I would not say that Joe Capone is a bad person. I have never met him, and just because a bunch of people that are pissed off because he knocked the bottom out of their get rich quick dream say he is a bad guy does not mean I am going to fall in line.

Like I said before where do you think the money you spend on fuel goes? Sam Walton, or whoever owns it now may be a real scumbag but I bet you spend your money at Walmart, purchasing things with "Made in China" all over them. Maybe you purchase Alcoholic beverages supporting the companies that supply all of the wife beating, child molesting, drunk driving alcoholics, and contribute to the destruction of human lives. Do you know that U.S. tax dollars fund planned parenthood, who abort 4,400 unborn children everyday.

I'm not saying that anybody who purchases a bottle of wine, puts fuel in their car, or pays taxes is a communist, wife beating, abortion doctor. I'm just saying, get off your high horse.
 

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