How would you approach this?

Originally Posted by TrpnBils

sounds good about the ringnecks. There are a few species that are fairly common but are giving me a hard time like that and I have no idea why.

Out here they are very gregarious. If I find one, I find five, sometimes under the same rock.

That's what I keep hearing... I just got back from a whole afternoon of flipping logs around some wetlands and I didn't find a single snake. I came back with some pics of a spotted salamander, some redback salamanders, two snapping turtles (not from flipping logs obviously ) and some far away shots of painted turtles that I couldn't get anywhere near.

I'm gonna try road cruising tonight to try for some milk snakes in the same area.

Originally Posted by TrpnBils

That's what I keep hearing... I just got back from a whole afternoon of flipping logs around some wetlands and I didn't find a single snake. I came back with some pics of a spotted salamander, some redback salamanders, two snapping turtles (not from flipping logs obviously ) and some far away shots of painted turtles that I couldn't get anywhere near.

I'm gonna try road cruising tonight to try for some milk snakes in the same area.

Good luck with the night drive. Post those pics when you get a chance, love to see the Spotted, especially.

Well, I'm kicking myself right now. I got plenty of spotted pictures earlier in the year so I didn't bother cleaning him up at all. Now that I sit down and look at the pictures, I wish I had.... Here are the "good" spotted shots from a couple of weeks ago, and I'll post up some others from today as soon as I get them resized.

One of them is a frog. It's either a leopard or pickerel frog, and I suck at telling one from the other, so hopefully somebody here can help me out...lol.

Here are a couple from today...the one snapper and the frog. It's a pickerel frog, right?

Very nice photos Jeff. You definately have some talent for wildlife photography.
I particularly like the second shot of the spotted and the head on of the snapper. I've always loved snappers.

I believe that frog is a leopard frog. The blotches on a Pickerel frog's back are more square shaped and in parallel rows, and the spot in the tympanum is black if it is present at all.

Originally Posted by Bahamut

I believe that frog is a leopard frog. The blotches on a Pickerel frog's back are more square shaped and in parallel rows, and the spot in the tympanum is black if it is present at all.

I agree with Jeremiah on that; Leopard Frog, for the reasons he brought up. Awesome pics of the spotted, and the others. Thanks for sharing.

haha, see? I told you I suck at telling the difference.... That's cool though because I didn't have any pictures of a leopard frog before, so I can cross that off my list. I think I'm up to 23 or 24 of the 41 species of herps here in Erie County.

Originally Posted by TrpnBils

haha, see? I told you I suck at telling the difference.... That's cool though because I didn't have any pictures of a leopard frog before, so I can cross that off my list. I think I'm up to 23 or 24 of the 41 species of herps here in Erie County.

Not to shabby. I've got like 140 +- for CA. That number is old, don't know what a lot of the recent taxonomy changes have done to that number, as it's hard to keep up lately. Maybe I should just stick with the county and not the state. I need to do a head count, of both the actual life list and those that I have a photo of, and see where I'm at.