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Old 03-11-2004, 02:50 PM   #1
Nichalia
Arrow Ravens and Crows Wanted

Looking for Ravens and Crows! Younger is better.

Also looking for other relatively common wild birds.

Thanks!
Nichalia
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:40 AM   #2
Mongo
ravens and crows wanted

You may want to check your local laws prohibiting these animals in captivity.
 
Old 03-12-2004, 04:08 PM   #3
beakgeek
All birds in the US are federally protected except House Sparrows, and Starlings. You can get in a load of trouble owning native species in the US.
 
Old 03-15-2004, 06:45 PM   #4
glider_gurl03
You need a federal migratory bird license for sure, most likely a state license too, to even be ABLE to legally have one in your position, for any length of time. You'd be better off getting a European type bird. Maybe a magpie, they're neat and kind of like crows and ravens
 
Old 04-19-2004, 04:03 PM   #5
Python0608
Native species

I know that all native species are not illegal to keep in captivity. It is legal here to keep mourning doves and pigeons which are native animals. It is also legal to keep sparrows as well. As far as Crows and Ravens I know they are not protected species here because we have a hunting season on them which lasts almost all yr. Not sure about keeping them in captivity here though.
 
Old 04-20-2004, 12:07 PM   #6
beakgeek
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Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 (16 U.S.C. 703-712; Ch. 128; July 13, 1918; 40 Stat. 755) as amended by: Chapter 634; June 20, 1936; 49 Stat. 1556; P.L. 86-732; September 8, 1960; 74 Stat. 866; P.L. 90-578; October 17, 1968; 82 Stat. 1118; P.L. 91-135; December 5, 1969; 83 Stat. 282; P.L. 93-300; June 1, 1974; 88 Stat. 190; P.L. 95-616; November 8, 1978; 92 Stat. 3111; P.L. 99-645; November 10, 1986; 100 Stat. 3590 and P.L. 105-312; October 30, 1998; 112 Stat. 2956
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Establishment of a Federal prohibition, unless permitted by regulations, to "pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, attempt to take, capture or kill, possess, offer for sale, sell, offer to purchase, purchase, deliver for shipment, ship, cause to be shipped, deliver for transportation, transport, cause to be transported, carry, or cause to be carried by any means whatever, receive for shipment, transportation or carriage, or export, at any time, or in any manner, any migratory bird, included in the terms of this Convention . . . for the protection of migratory birds . . . or any part, nest, or egg of any such bird." (16 U.S.C. 703)
Look at the list of birds which includes mourning doves and all sparrows, except house sparrows which are not protected. Just because there is a hunting season does not mean you can keep them in captivity. Hence the reason for a hunting permit to shoot them.

List of protected birds
 
Old 04-20-2004, 12:17 PM   #7
Python0608
Crows

I never said that you can keep them in captivty. Crows are not migratory either. They are here all yr long. I contacted our game and fish department just out of curiosity to see if they are legal or not. I havent got a response back yet.
 
Old 04-20-2004, 12:26 PM   #8
glider_gurl03
You said exactly "I know that all native species are not illegal to keep in captivity. It is legal here to keep mourning doves and pigeons which are native animals. It is also legal to keep sparrows as well. As far as Crows and Ravens I know they are not protected species here because we have a hunting season on them which lasts almost all yr. Not sure about keeping them in captivity here though." Doesn't that say that you said it's legal to keep them in captivity?

And crows are still CONSIDERED a migratory bird. Just because they stay down where it's warm all the time doesn't mean they don't migrate in other places, therefore placing them under the migratory bird category.


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Old 04-20-2004, 12:33 PM   #9
Python0608
Crows

What do you mean doesnt that say that it's ok to keep them in captivity? It says right there I am not sure about keeping them in captivity. Whats the problem?? As far as migratory birds go they are not listed as a Migratory bird in AZ. They stay here when it's snowing as well. I have the regulations right in from of me.
 
Old 04-20-2004, 01:40 PM   #10
beakgeek
Taken from the list which you obviously did not read:

Crow, American, Corvus brachyrhynchos
Fish, Corvus ossifragus
Hawaiian, Corvus hawaiiensis
Mexican, Corvus imparatus
Northwestern, Corvus caurinus
White-necked, Corvus leucognaphalus

That would be all crow species.
 

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