Ashley Caspillo-SakaraGT4/Sakara *Possible Buyer Beware!*

There's more cases proving Ashley's quarantine was NOT as stringent as she claimed it to be.

For example: Sakara did NOT quarantine for more than 1-2 months, if at all, before putting these guys in a picture with a snake she has had for about 2yrs

Definitely not good quarantine procedures. This one shows them all together…
BCL comparison... 5yrs, 2yrs, 3mos
Posted in September 2010
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/boa...-3-months.html

Here's when she got the other snakes:
July 2010
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/boa...anery-bcl.html

July 2010
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/boa...roke-over.html



So her statement regarding her quarantine period is not accurate.

Oops..sorry, forgot to add:

http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/jus...o-order-2.html

Originally Posted by Sakara

I don't let rats sit in the enclosure for more than overnight... Because the rat will start deteriorating as soon as it's thawed... If the snake doesn't eat it right away or overnight, someone else gets it

Aside from the fact that you feed a rat that's sat out overnight to another snake...clearly there's some cross-contamination going on there.

Incidentally one of the snakes in the above picture IS the one that died from suspected IBD.

If you are stopping sales, you might want to remove these ads on these sites so everyone is on the same page. I know the ads are a little older, but you should still remove them.

http://redtailboa.net/classifieds/sh...ct=2594&cat=45
http://redtailboa.net/classifieds/sh...ct=2593&cat=45

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru....php?...(tharr be more)t=213003&highlight=sakaragt4
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ight=sakaragt4

Probably whatever ads on Craigslist you have as well. I'm 99.99% sure this is yours because who else has 5 female Bolivians for sale in your area?

Originally Posted by amercnwmn

Incidentally one of the snakes in the above picture IS the one that died from suspected IBD.

Sorry was supposed to say "IS NOT".. Snake that died from suspected IBD was last year, this pic was just to show that quarantine was lacking in the collection..

It's too early.

What baffles me is WHY these snakes were listed for sale AFTER the initial suspicion of IBD??

Scary stuff... Thanks for posting this thread amercnwmn. Also, thank you skiploder and Adrya for the excellent information you shared with us on IBD.

I just wanted ask a question if the original guy she got the supposed BCL boa with IBD has been contacted to let him know of the stuff she has been doing and that the first vet report may be inacurate. If that is the case may I ask if that makes it look like maybe the BCL never had IBD and that there was no wrong doing in that case? I see he has not posted any animals for sale in a long while. That shows he has at least taken into consideration that there was a possibly that there was something wrong and is at least doing his part to contain the possible situation. She has tons of contadicting statements as we have all read and I am glad someone put up a flag to get all herpers notified of possible problems. Thanks

Originally Posted by hboyles66

I just wanted ask a question if the original guy she got the supposed BCL boa with IBD has been contacted to let him know of the stuff she has been doing and that the first vet report may be inacurate.

That was my original "red flag". If she felt the reports to be a fake, why didn't she do the reputable thing, and say so?

IMO, it was so she could keep selling snakes.

Several people had questioned her for having ads still up after the original
necropsy suggesting IBD, INCLUDING the man she accused of initially selling her the sick snake.

When people started questioning Ashley on WHY she was still selling snakes, her story changed indicating she had a second vet (not related to the exam of the BCL) discount the findings on the first necropsy or the other 3 tests she claims to have had done.

I haven't seen any vet reports indicating WHY he would discount the findings, and I find it hard to believe a Dr of Veterinary medicine would question the lab results on a snake he never saw, and on an exam he didn't perform..

She also lost a Burmese Python that showed no inclusion bodies, but died of sudden pneumonia. That, IMO could have POSSIBLY still been IBD related.

It's been shown in MANY statements regarding IBD, including Dr. Jacobson's report, that snakes will often test negative, but still die from IBD related causes, or be asymptomatic, but still infected. It was also pointed out that ONE case of IBD is rare.

Maybe the test was wrong, but until EXTENSIVE further tests were performed, IMO those snakes should have NEVER been sold, especially given the photographic PROOF that they were all housed/kept together despite claims of quarantine.

Originally Posted by hboyles66

If that is the case may I ask if that makes it look like maybe the BCL never had IBD and that there was no wrong doing in that case? I see he has not posted any animals for sale in a long while. That shows he has at least taken into consideration that there was a possibly that there was something wrong and is at least doing his part to contain the possible situation.

I don't believe he has been contacted, I believe he is banned from this forum now.

Originally Posted by hboyles66

She has tons of contadicting statements as we have all read and I am glad someone put up a flag to get all herpers notified of possible problems. Thanks

That bothers me as well.
The fact that ads are apparently still posted, and it's been "Business as usual" concerns me.

All the best.

I have to fully agree with you. I do believe if the guy that sold her the BCL is banned for selling something he may or may not have known had IBD, should she not be banned from what we have seen that she knowingly is selling snakes with what shes first said was a positive id of IBD of a snake in her collection? IBD is crazy and I personally have seen the affects it has and it sucks! I know if I had what I believed to be a confirmed death in my collection from IBD I would quarantine every animal I own until I am 100% sure there is no problems. Which could take a long time as it is hard to tell in snakes without them dying and test being performed by someone who knows what they are doing and that is not easy to find. Thanks. Hank Boyles. I realize I did not post my full name in my last post.