OMG! Going Downhill FAST!

Originally Posted by SPJ

The draining greatly reduces the swelling. It was drained again because it started to swell at the original site again.

Still no definitive diagnosis but it is resistant to almost every antibiotic out there. They have been growing lots of this stuff lately in the lab though.

Steve,
Have they mentioned anything about a gram stain of the organism? Also, have you seen any culture and sensitivity results?

Hope this is cleared up for you soon and you two can get back to your normal owner/pet relationship.

Originally Posted by Dr Owens

Steve,
Have they mentioned anything about a gram stain of the organism? Also, have you seen any culture and sensitivity results?

This is what I have been given on it so far.

Cellularity was moderately high with a small amount of blood. Cells were a mixture of heterophils, lymphocytes and azurophils. Mixed bacteria were observed. No cellular atypia suggestive of neoplasia was evident.

The culture results showed 3+ gram negative rods and 3+ aeromomas species.

The sensitivity showed Fortaz would be effective but more common antibiotics such as Baytril would be ineffective.

I wish you nothing but the best... I keep you in my thoughts.. But if it comes down to it my promise of contributing still stands... If that is what you decide.

Thinking of you both!
Patty Crooker

Originally Posted by SPJ

This is what I have been given on it so far.

Cellularity was moderately high with a small amount of blood. Cells were a mixture of heterophils, lymphocytes and azurophils. Mixed bacteria were observed. No cellular atypia suggestive of neoplasia was evident.

The culture results showed 3+ gram negative rods and 3+ aeromomas species.

The sensitivity showed Fortaz would be effective but more common antibiotics such as Baytril would be ineffective.

Well, that report isn't super specific, but the fact that it's gram negative rods and aeromonas sp. tells me a little bit. However, both are usually covered really well by fluoroquinolones (Baytril is a FQ), so it's kind of weird that it would be resistant to Baytril. It would be nice if they could have obtained a little more accurate culture result...

Have you started Fortaz yet? If so, how many days has he been on it?

Also, was the drainage thick, and caseous, or was it more liquid?

Sorry Steve...I just went back and read your initial post again. It's been long enough that I had forgotten that initial info.


So, a better way to ask my last question would be...what day of treatment is he on?

Originally Posted by Dr Owens

Well, that report isn't super specific, but the fact that it's gram negative rods and aeromonas sp. tells me a little bit. However, both are usually covered really well by fluoroquinolones (Baytril is a FQ), so it's kind of weird that it would be resistant to Baytril. It would be nice if they could have obtained a little more accurate culture result...

Have you started Fortaz yet? If so, how many days has he been on it?

Also, was the drainage thick, and caseous, or was it more liquid?

Already started the Fortaz. He has had 5 injections so far (they are once every 3 days).
The liquid was thick, kinda like a mucous.
I have had 3 vets now dealing with this and none of them have been able to give me any type of conclusive answer as to what is going on.

Has it only been the thick fluid, or has any particulate matter come out too?

I'm not a vet, but I been sharing this with mine a little. He asked the same question as Jay did pretty much.

Originally Posted by crotalusadamanteus

Has it only been the thick fluid, or has any particulate matter come out too?

I'm not a vet, but I been sharing this with mine a little. He asked the same question as Jay did pretty much.

No particulate matter. Little bit of blood and mucusy stuff but it was clumpy (and just downright gross).
He is on day 16 of treatment.

These may help.