Mike Matson of Mike's Phat Frog is a scammer !!

Originally Posted by Pasodama

Mike, since it appears that Rick is willing to give a bit more time, are you willing to work something out, re. payment, instead of remaining steadfast on sending the frogs back?

No. He burnt that bridge a few days ago. Especially, posting all this garbage. He was unwilling to work with 2-3 more weeks and I also offered $100.00 extra for being late.

He knows he was making BANK off those frogs! That's why he is causing a huge fuss.

When Rick says this to me(view attachment) honestly it's good it's behind a keyboard. No one would speak like this to me in person.

With that being said this deal is done and over. It's a shame it couldn't work out but rick will have his frogs back shortly and that is all. The neglect is on his side if he refuses open the box of frogs when he receives them.

I will still continue to supply the USA and other countries with great frogs.

Why doesn't mike just sell some of the frogs in his possessions to create cash and send it to rick. Then the balance can be paid in the 2-3 week period. Solves all the issues. The frogs don't get sent to rick, rick gets some money sooner, and Mike has bought the 2-3 weeks he needs to pay the balance.

Originally Posted by cjsreptiles

Why doesn't mike just sell some of the frogs in his possessions to create cash and send it to rick. Then the balance can be paid in the 2-3 week period. Solves all the issues. The frogs don't get sent to rick, rick gets some money sooner, and Mike has bought the 2-3 weeks he needs to pay the balance.

Because rick is getting his animals back and that's all

He admitted to knowingly smuggle animals from Australia ILLEGALLY and offered to tell me how to do it and get away with it , Please tell me how he's in any way honest. Also I stand by everything I said to him in that last photo because he's proving it all with the course of actions he takes. Should he attempt to ship the frogs knowing I won't accept the shipment he is knowingly endangering 17 "live" frogs and I will definitely alert F&W as to his neglect which recently in the U.S. was bumped up to a Felony per living animal. The Federal freeze on his bank accounts isn't coming from me , I just know about it. Even now I'm giving him a heads up by telling him that,

Originally Posted by jrsexotics

No one would speak like this to me in person.

I will still continue to supply the USA and other countries with great frogs.

I wouldn't be too sure of either of those.
The admitted smuggling is enough for me not to do any business with you.

Originally Posted by jrsexotics

When Rick says this to me(view attachment) honestly it's good it's behind a keyboard. No one would speak like this to me in person.

With that being said this deal is done and over. It's a shame it couldn't work out but rick will have his frogs back shortly and that is all. The neglect is on his side if he refuses open the box of frogs when he receives them.

That message (that you attached) does not shed the greatest light, on Rick, but, with your refusal to pay, refusal to work out a payment plan, and by sending those frogs back (with the possible fate of certain death), it sure casts a bad light on you.

BTW When it comes to paying, or not, the health, of the animals, is a non-issue at this point in time. It was not an issue when you received the frogs, and you still spoke on your willingness to pay in full, so cannot become an issue now (after the time that has passed).

Even though I'm offering more time, Mike is sticking to his guns because this is what his intentions from the start were. He'd rather ruin his reputation completely before admitting what so many people see clearly. This is his way out of it and if I accept the frogs which I will not I would be allowing him to get away with being a scammer. For two people who you do business transactions with to accuse you of the exact same thing doesn't seem to be an external situation nor coincidence . I know what it is to be a rough situation , but I'm doing nothing but giving Mike countless opportunities to square up on HIS WORD and this is what he's choosing to do.

Also, legally, someone speaking to you, in a very disrespectful manner, is not a valid/appropriate defense for non-payment.

Also since this seems to be tradition lets add some of Mike's previous BOIs

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=184291

This one is great and explains how Mike likes to threaten people with physical harm
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...tson+Jr&page=2

This one explains how he has used many profiles on here under different names, Enjoy !
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ht=Mike+Matson


Here's a couple of mine
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=358217

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=267881