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Old 11-08-2002, 12:27 AM   #141
Lucas Denning
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!!

Why don't you use that same camera that you are planning on using to photograph your ball python and take some photos of all these snakes that you say you have?

"Lucas you realize that you are now lieing as you speak, if you can remember that far ago........"

I have no clue what you are talking about here....  I don't know how to respond to this...  What am I lying about?


"Um its hard when you have 14 snakes to keep everything right, try some time and trying to keep up in ADVANCED CLASSES its hard, althought mmy only hard class is spanish dam* it i can speak that lan. for crap."

Um, Patrick, I'm pretty sure my college classes are a bit more advanced than the special-ed class that you're in.  What school put you in advanced classes if you can't even type a sentence?  And do you think anyone is going to believe that you got a $9000 99 SNOW boa confused for a hatchling?  Or a PROVEN ADULT MALE ball python confused for a hatchling.  That's a lie and you know it.  That really doesn't make sense, now does it...?  That's obviously not a valid excuse, and no one is going to buy it.  So, please answer the question truthfully.  HOW DID YOUR ADULT BOA AND BALL SUDDENLY BECOME HATCHLINGS?  
A tip, maybe you should learn the language of your own country before you try for others....

"Um came back with Brian i never brought a Brian Here?? If you want i can Bring a Bryan???"
OK, it took me awhile to figure out what you were talking about here....  But now that I do, it's freakin hilarious....  Ok Patrick, I'll try to use little words here and be fairly descriptive.  You know that thing that's supposed to be in your head, but that doctors have told you is messed up?  It's called a brain.  Like I said...you need one...

"Lucas i am not going to be trashed by someone who already said sorry for the last tiem you did and admired me bla, bla, bla what a bunch of bull, if i sill had the e-mail i would pos it, i nay actually that doesn't sound like a bad idea."

Ok, if I didn't know you, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and think that maybe you are thinking of someone else...  But, nope.  You're lying.  You don't have any email from me apologizing to you or.....admiring you....  because I never sent one.  Why would I?  What do you have that's admirable?  Right now you seem to have basically nothing except for a really really bad name, and one of the largest bad guy threads in the history of the BOI.  Yeah, that's something that I want....
 
Old 11-08-2002, 02:17 AM   #142
evansnakes
Patrick, you have never dealt with me for one simple reason, you can not afford my animals! It also is surely a mediating factor that I won't take your crappy looking snakes in trade.
Don't pretend that it is by choice that you have not bought from me. Anyone who wants to can see the posts you have left all over this site drooling over my animals but how you can't afford them. You are just a big talker with no money little boy! You would have bought plenty of my animals if I had been dumb enough to work out deals with you.

"A het for MOST pythons & boas is a Dom gene"

Why don't you shut your moronic mouth already? How many more stupid things like this quote above do you need to put here. I have tried to help you with several past stupid things you have said, to teach you that the less you say the better you are, but here you are again. Silly, sad, little dummy,nearly ALL genetic mutations in reptiles are simple recessives that show nothing first generation. There are, for your information, as of right now, only about 4 or 5 confirmed dominant mutations in boas and pythons (pastel jungle ball, tiger retic, hypo boa, etc.) Then there are a handful of co-dominant mutations that may or may not prove to be dominant (pin stripe ball, spider ball, mojave ball, pastel boa, etc.). Just once why can't you admit that you are a kid and those of us that are on here as adults, with more knowledge and experience know what we are talking about?

You also state that you have bred and produced animals because your ball python will lay soon. What if the eggs are bad? What if you destroy the eggs because you have never incubated before (whcih most breeders will tell you is much harder than getting the snakes to lay eggs)? Then what? You have acomplished nothing! Why is that so hard for a kid to admit? I have produced hundreds of species. Don't you think that means I know more than you? Just this season I produced 14 species and about 20 genetic variants. What did you do? Nothing. When are you going to realize how much you have lied in this thread and learn from your mistakes?

You said you had snow boas and an axanthic ball. You then said they were hets. You have changed the age and size of the animals about four times. Grow up Patrick.
 
Old 11-08-2002, 09:27 PM   #143
P120_Cartman
Evan, i am extremely good in science and math which is why im in biology with all seniors and alegebra 4 next semester, and physics next yr, so take ur stupid little colleg classes and have fun, as you know Evan, i am not the GREATEST when it coms to snake genes as i have yet to learn them all and what and how they all produce and what.
 
Old 11-08-2002, 09:28 PM   #144
P120_Cartman
its called i am buying a REAL camera after christmas and a disposable before but not right now.
 
Old 11-08-2002, 09:28 PM   #145
Ken Harbart
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Um its hard when you have 14 snakes to keep everything right, try some time and trying to keep up in ADVANCED CLASSES its hard, althought mmy only hard class is spanish dam* it i can speak that lan. for crap.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You've got to be kidding. That is, by far, one of the weakest excuses I've ever read.

Let's see, I'm currently down to only 65 snakes, am a full-time student with a double major in biology and criminal justice, and have a total of three jobs- including military &amp; law enforcement. In addition, I spend a lot of time abroad. Oddly enough, I don't seem to have any of the ethical problems that seem to be afflicting you (honesty, etc).
 
Old 11-08-2002, 10:04 PM   #146
Neil Gubitz
Ken.... Man, If I make a cup of coffee and answer the phone at the same time, I need a rest!.... lol
What do you want to be when you grow up???

And, who's that broad you want to spend a lot of time on??

....Neil
 
Old 11-08-2002, 10:33 PM   #147
Lucas Denning
Ok Patrick.... &nbsp;At my school, most people took Algebra in 8th grade, and then Algebra II their sophomore year. &nbsp;Where the heck did you get Algebra 4? &nbsp;Make that up? &nbsp;O, and Biology is not an advanced class for a freshman.... &nbsp;That's the class almost all freshman take. &nbsp;That's a basic high school class. &nbsp;You have to Biology before you can take the more adbvanced classes. So, if yours is full of seniors, it's full of seniors that have previously failed it. &nbsp;And BTW, Evan never said anything about college classes.

We don't really care if you don't know a d@mn thing about genetics. &nbsp;What we do care about is you misreprensting your animals and flat out lying about them. &nbsp;That has nothing to do with your knowledge on them. &nbsp;And you side-stepped my question again. &nbsp;I'll paste it here....:

&quot;HOW DID YOUR ADULT BOA AND BALL SUDDENLY BECOME HATCHLINGS?&quot; &nbsp;

You specifically asked me to tell you which questions you had not answered. &nbsp;So, I asked you one. &nbsp;Why don't you answer?

You also said that I was lying about something. &nbsp;You still haven't said specifically what that was... &nbsp;O, and what the heck were you talking about when you said that I emailed you and apologized and &quot;bla bla bla,&quot; as you put it.
 
Old 11-08-2002, 10:49 PM   #148
Classic Dum's
Hey Pat if your so broke Ill make ya a deal! Save your money on the throw away camera and Ill take pics of your animals for free. All you have to do is bring the two animals in question to the show and Ill take pics of any other animals you want. That you bring with you. Ill come home downlaod them, post your proof and email the rest to ya. Hows that for a deal? You get to save $12 on the camera and however much money it costs to have the pics developed. Fair enough? No snow, no axanthic, physically there NO PICS!!!!!!
 
Old 11-08-2002, 10:51 PM   #149
HerpVenue
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ritchie, you mean last year was your FIRST time actually breeding??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>First time breeding on purpose.
I have bred snakes before...but accidentally. spam_These are my pets.
15-20 years old. spam_owned pets. spam_Some Bred accidentally.
20-25 College..could not afford pets.
25-27 First years of the Army...too much moving around to own anything.
27-30 Owned different pets again
27-28 A couple raptiles bred accidentally
30-31 first time breeding ON PUPOSE.

There you go Patrick. spam_I have nothing to hide. spam_This is my hobby. spam_I am not a &quot;Big breeder&quot; But I will always have more people trusting me than you can ever dream off. spam_You see Patrick....I would rather take a loss than have someone feel they were screwd. spam_I know it is very impractical and unrealistic on my part. spam_But having someone unsatisfied is a major fear of mine. spam_But then again I also know you can't please everyone. spam_I also know I can turn to these people for advice on what to do when decisions get to big and grey for me.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dam* i thoought you where a hel* of a lot bigger than that for some reason?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>So do a lot of people. spam_Which I find weird. spam_But hey, at least they can trust me as much if not more than a &quot;Big Breeder&quot;.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For a 31 yr old to just now be breeding on purpose is strange for me but i can see how and why</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Let me see. spam_I went to college to try to be a doctor. spam_Then a Biomedical engineer. spam_Then computer science. spam_None of it worked out....But that is another story.. spam_Anyway being a &quot;breeder&quot; did not even get into my mind. These are my pets and I love them all like family.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ritchie i have owned many reptiles since i was 5 but my obession with snakes since i was 7, i have actually been in this business for just a little less time than you, but yet have done more why??? spam_</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm let me see.
You went to a snake show and stole your first animals.
Then you realized how easy it was to steal an animal and then sell it.
Then you realized how easy it was to buy a normal animal and sell it as a het.
Now you have a lot of pretend hets...pretend axanthics...and pretend snows....
You have ruined your reputation.
you have tried to sell stolen animals.
You have lied to a lot of people.
You have tried to &quot;steal&quot; people animals with your pretend breeding loan.
Yup you have done more than me. spam_And I hope I never do as much as you have done to yourself.

So how many animals have you bred?
How long is your referral list?
How many customers have you sold too?
And what percentage of your customers were happy?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MY AUNT AND GRANDMA BOTH TOLD ME THESE WHERE HETS FROM P.K</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Hets? spam_geesh when did they become hets? spam_You said they were bought from pk in 99 and they were snows. spam_They were 9 foot snows. spam_What happened?
when did they become baby hets?

You found a gene that reverses aging and turns homozygous animals into heterozygous gene carriers. spam_yup you sure have done more than I ever will

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was curious.... spam_Has anyone seen a phone number from Patrick?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>It is on a post here somewhere.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">See this is exaticly why i NEVER DEAL with you at swaps Evan.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Wait ...first you say he would have a heart attack if he knew how many animals you bought from him. spam_You also say you ask him questions... spam_Know you are saying you NEVER deal with him? spam_Whoopsy more lies

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I ment no disrespect to Ritchie it was in fact a simple question, as i assumed he has bred many animals by the way he acts and talks.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> spam_Nice try but too late. spam_You are on the same list as Jesse Underhill. spam_And I did not put you there.....you put yourself there.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">my phone # i gave that for you only not the whole world</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>umm you posted both your parents phone numbers and addresses.....but I guess you forgot.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you now how old i am?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> spam_I don't have to file taxes unless the earnings are greater than 2,500 a year which i will soon have to.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>You'll have to sell them at shows to people who do not know you....Because I will take care of your internet sales.......TRUST ME spam_<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
 
Old 11-08-2002, 10:56 PM   #150
HerpVenue
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Um its hard when you have 14 snakes to keep everything right, try some time and trying to keep up in ADVANCED CLASSES its hard, althought mmy only hard class is spanish dam* it i can speak that lan. for crap.

</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>So Jake Jeckel the spanish speaker
the guy who types and spells like you
the guy who has the same IP address like yours

he is really you.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Evan, i am not the GREATEST when it coms to snake genes as i have yet to learn them all and what and how they all produce and what.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>You have pretended to have done more than me.....you have pretended to have bred more than me....
Why don't you go ahead and pretend to understand genetics like me. spam_I understand them.

Algebra 4?
I know calculus four...but never heard of algebra 4.
If you take algebra and flunk four times.....the name will never change.
It does not become algebra 7 when you flunk it 7 times
 

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