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Originally Posted by kelly2
Mike is no bad guy. I'll keep this 1 short & sweet. I have followed this all the way through. Mike aka serpentboy78 is not a bad guy. Just had a bad deal and these ppl just can NOT stand the fact that Mike did not bow down and he stood is ground. Mike have no worries. Kelly Andrews
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It never seems to amaze me, how people put their personal feelings above objective reasoning.
just had a bad deal? oh no biggy. what do you think makes a "bad guy". How they handle their customers is what makes a person a good or bad guy. Not the type of snakes they sell, not how much they sell them for, not who they know, it's how they handle their customers.
For you to just blow this situation off, lets everyone know that indeed ethics don't mean anything to some people. Since I don't know either party I tried to stay "unbiased" on the original thread and just base my opinion on the photos, and the handling of the situation by the 2 parties involved, but as it winds down, I now feel Seamus (on the other thread) has pretty much called it about right.
I hesitated to bring it up in the first thread, because I wanted it to stand alone and see how it was resolved, fact of the matter is, I see the start of a pattern with serpentboy78, aka the "Dan Scalaro (Ben siegal employee) is a bad guy" thread. The pattern;
1. Sending a snake in poor shape, Pyro in this related thread, Coral snake in the other, snake arrives dead or near death, buyer immediatly complains, serpentboy78 in both instances "I sent a perfectly good snake, you killed it or are trying to scam me" to paraphrase.
2. Serpentboy78 quickly shoots out a "preemptive" bad guy post with a lot of hyperbole and exclamations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and information that should not be included ie. Bens name should not have been in the other thread.
3. snake is witnessed near death or dead at arrival or shortly there after, in David's thread by the guy who came over to photograph it, in the other thread by Ben himself.
4. The eyewitness accounts are ignored or disregarded by him, in the Dan thread even though Ben stated it was dead and didn't look good, he could not state for a fact how long it had been dead, therefore summarily dismissed as the victim was stating it arrived dead and Ben's statement wasn't clear enough proof that it arrived dead. In current thread, it was disregarded I guess just because the guy is a friend and not someone well known.
As far as your "Mike have no worries" the sad thing is it's probably true. Sure there will be many who will no longer buy from said person, but it will probably be countered by people who could care less about ethics or the right thing to do, and could give a rats behind, as long as they get a cheap snake.