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Originally Posted by M.Dwight

Since the early 90's there have been hundreds of hypo X hypo breedings with predictable results. This gene is now VERY well understood and defined. A het hypo x het hypo breeding will (on average) give you
50% het hypos
25% homozygous hypos
25% WT (wild type)

Thats exactly what I have been saying. LOL.. Thanks for clearing it up. but would in it be 50% het supers and not het hypos?

Ok here we go. LOL.. Now if I happen to get one wrong please let me know.

Hypo to normal = about 50% Hypo 50% normal.

Hypo to Hypo = (About) 25% super Hypo, about 50% Hypo and 25% normal.

Super hypo to normal = all hypos, (no Supers)

Super hypo to hypo = about 50% super hypo, and 50% hypo

Super hypo to super hypo = all super hypos.

Thanks, Josh

Originally Posted by vinnybocknyg

why is that wrong Mark because I didnt say 25% homo(super)???
Thats what I meant hypo x hypo (hets) would result in 75% hypo (25%) super hypo 25% normal
If thats not right Im still confused aswell!!!!

Ah, I now know what you meant...but that was not what you typed.

Originally Posted by extreme_bci

but would in it be 50% het supers and not het hypos?

Het for "super"?????
I've never heard of this gene called super.
So, how can they be heterozygous for a gene that doesn't exist?

Forget the term "super" altogether. There are only het hypos or homozygous hypos.

Do you see my point?

Are homozygous hypos and super hypos the same thing?

I ment 50% hypo het for homozygous hypo.

I really like this thread, every body is learning something new or aleast I'm.

Originally Posted by extreme_bci

but would in it be 50% het supers and not het hypos?

BTW...remember het simply means differant or unlike. So, a boa with one copy of the hypo/salmon gene and one copy of the wild type gene is both het hypo AND het wild type.

In fact, there would be nothing wrong with calling a hypo boa a "het for wild type boa." After all, if bred together they would produce 25% normals....Just like two het for albino boas would produce 25% albinos.

Thanks for relizeing Mark.... Josh either drop het or drop super dont say both......
Hypo or super OR het or hypo.....PICK ONE!!!!!!LOL!
thanks Mark I learned from you in this thread from a tehcnical standpoint and I appreciate that!!!!

OOPs IM sorry I meant hypo OR super or het OR homo.......my bad!

For you Bob...............




I don't doubt your observations, or the outcome of your breedings, but any punit square will say that you get normals from pairing hypo's. A lot of people put faith in these things.

This is also why I hate punit squares. People take them too literally. They are meant for statistical probability, not actual out come. You can breed a hypo to a normal and get less or more than 50% hypo from the litter. If both hypo's in the pair over ride more than 50% of the WT genes, what does that leave you with? Sounds like all hypos to me. It may not happen like that with all pairing being the hypo is such a variable dominant gene.

Mark........... as always, great answers. I hope some day to know 1/2 what you know..............I would have gotten the riddle too though. LOL


Rick

Originally Posted by crotalusadamanteus

I hope some day to know 1/2 what you know

Thanks. But actually some of my post here are technically inaccurate. I'm guilty of over-simplifying for ease of understanding. Genetics is hard enough to learn as it is so I don't want to confuse the novice even more by trying to explain things like epistatic/hypostatic genes and so forth. The most important thing is to just know the basic meanings of heterozygous, homozygous, dominant and recessive. Once you understand those meanings everything else is easy.

I'm as dumb as two chickens.......if I can understand it ANYONE can.