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Veterinarian Practice & General Health Issues Anything to do with veterinarians, health issues, pathogens, hygiene, or sanitation. |
09-05-2004, 05:16 PM
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Dosing Panacur...
Does anyone have a fairly reliable method for dosing Leopard Geckos??
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09-05-2004, 07:20 PM
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dosing reptile meds
Here is how to calculate drug doses:
(dose x weight)
concentration
(or dose times weight divided by concentration)
First, determine the weight of the gecko and convert that to kilograms using this formula:
1 kilogram (kg) = 1,000 grams (or gecko weight divided by 1,000)
So, if a gecko weighs 50 grams, that is the same as 0.05 kilograms. If it weighs 20 grams, it would be 0.02 kg.
Now, let’s say you have a drug with a concentration of 100mg/ml, and the prescribed dose is for Panacur is 50mg per kilogram of weight, (50mg/kg). Using the formulas from above, it comes out to be:
50mg (dose) x 0.05kg (weight) = 2.5 divided by 100 (concentration)
This means the proper dose of this medication for a 50 gram gecko is 0.025ml
Panacur should be given once every 2 weeks until the fecal tests are negative for parasites.
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09-05-2004, 07:37 PM
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Thanks Marcia, that's an awesome post!
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09-05-2004, 08:17 PM
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Hey Marcia, thanks.
I ALWAYS forget this, and am too shy to ask for it again... but this time... I printed it, and wrote it down.
Thanks alot
Michael
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09-05-2004, 08:27 PM
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Heeeheeee
I swear Im having a Deja Vu!
I must be losing my mind!
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10-25-2004, 08:15 PM
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My vet is giving my 11 gram leo .02cc of Panacur! Doesn't that sound like the dosage you guys calculated for a 50g leo?
Going into her fourth week of treatment, my poor little lizard. Her infestation was so masive I was told little leos like her normally die within 48 hrs, of infestations like that.
I credit her survival to Marcia's help... And my love too.
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10-25-2004, 10:44 PM
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I think you answered your own question
Quote:
Going into her fourth week of treatment, my poor little lizard. Her infestation was so masive I was told little leos like her normally die within 48 hrs, of infestations like that.
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Very bad infection=higher dose
J. Dustin Loy
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10-26-2004, 12:25 AM
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Excerpt from Klingenberg's book
Fenbendazole (Panacur)
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This Group of drugs is extremely safe, with Panacur having a margin of safety up to 5,000 times normal dose in mammals. To Klingenberg's knowledge, a reptilians death directly associated with the use of Panacur in snakes, lizards, or turtles has never been reported.
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Anyone out there with any "new" knowledge of a death directly associated with Panacur in any reptile?
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10-26-2004, 05:49 AM
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Well, I see a webpage selling the paste (intended to treat horses) and advertising that you can't overdose on Panacur.
However, when my leo gets her .02 cc dose she is groggy and lethargic all day. That is the most I have seen, but makes me suspect that a higher dose would certainly hurt her, seeing what a lower dose does to her.
Besides, if you really could not overdose an animal on Panacur I am sure he'd have washed her stomach with it already, being a very persistent parasitic infestation!
And yes, he is Dr. Giddings. Connecticut's avian and reptilian specialist with over decades of experience treating these animals. So he knows what he is doing and would not give her lower doses just to keep me coming back.
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10-26-2004, 01:48 PM
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I don't buy that crap about Panacur being safe when overdosed by the thousands. Anything overdosed by the thousands can can be dangerous, even water. The problem with documented Panacur-related deaths is that people don't look at overdosing as being the culprit but probably blame the original infestation instead. The only deaths I'm aware of were caused by impaction of the dead worms after treatment and toxic shock syndrome when the body has a heavy load of decomposing worm bodies after treatment.
Wanda, Panacur was made for horses and is only intended for use on horses. It says so on the manufacturer's label. There aren't any medications specifically designed for use with reptiles, so vets have to play it by ear when they estimate proper dosages. That's why Panacur has to be diluted, because even a drop of the original concentration can be thousands of times too strong for small herps. The dosage your vet prescribed is going to be relative to how diluted the concentration is.
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