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Originally Posted by Elepheguttata007
I don't know what your problem is..I took him to a referred herp vet, who treated him with oral injections..And I never said I knew everything, I came to this site first because I trust people's opinions on here..and this is what I get? I am not a confrontational person, and I hate it that you continue to bash me, when I've done nothing wrong..I have tried my best to show appreciation for everyone's input, and just haven't had the time to properly respond, and I tried to be polite and say thank you anyway...*sigh*...
Thanks for your concern..
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I don't have a problem at all. This is your thread, not mine. I was merely trying to help you out so you might avoid some of the horror stories I've witnessed and experienced over the 35+ yrs I've been keeping Boas. And I also wasn't bashing you. Not one bit. I was however using sarcasm to try and get your attention. Sorry if that offended you.
I also don't know everything. I learn new stuff all the time. But I have learned over the years, that neither do vets. They sometimes will say they are reptile qualified, just to get the business, when in reality, they've seen 2 turtles and one bearded dragon in their whole time practicing. Unfortunately, it's us and our reptiles that pay a price for that. Like the example given in the picture above. I was recommended to that "reptile vet" when my usual vet was on vacation. His wrongful administration of injectable baytril cost me over $2,000 in corrective surgery due to the cellulitis and necrosis caused by that improper injection of Baytril.
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Originally Posted by Elepheguttata007
I want to apologize for not having the time earlier to fully respond to the question and "blowing you off" which I did not intend, but apparently It's what I did (and I realize that), so I am sorry and I really appreciate you taking the time to help me.
To answer your questions:
Temps in the cage are basking:90s, ambient 80-82
Humidity is around %50-60
I use a humidity and temperature gage (2 in 1) centered in the enclosure.
I heat the enclosure using an under tank heater along with a red heat lamp.
I've had the boa for almost a year.
I have three boas.
The vet gave me Baytril (oral)
To give him 2oz a day.
Anything else, let me know.
Thanks again.
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Now those are informative answers to the questions that were posed to you earlier. That is all I was trying to accomplish. But me being such a "communication expert" (that's more sarcasm BTW) many have taken my line of questioning the wrong way. I'm getting better though.
I see nothing wrong with the conditions you are keeping them in, provided the instrumentation you use to measure it is accurate. The thing is, URI isn't something that happens, it's something that is CAUSED, usually by improper environmental conditions. This is why I asked all the questions I asked earlier.
Baytril is a great wide spectrum anti biotic. It works even better in a warmer environment. You might consider while administering it, raising the temps just a few degrees.
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Originally Posted by Elepheguttata007
I think "injection" is turning out to be the wrong use of the word..It's not injected with a needle, but with a small tube into the mouth..I'm not sure what to call that.
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An example of why being very clear is so important.
Oral administration is exactly what its called. It's an excepted method if properly instructed. Did the vet supply you with a catheter (long tube) to ensure it gets far enough down the throat to avoid aspiration, and reduced the risk of it coming back up?
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Originally Posted by lylwhitetiger
Oh ok, so basically open his mouth and shoot the medication in with a syringe? That's neat, I didn't think it could be done like that.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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More to it then just shooting it in their mouth. This is a sure fire way to cause aspiration. If the meds are not administered far enough down, then they can spit it back up, or inhale it through their glottus (aspiration) and that can cause even more problems turning something relatively low cost into something more expensive.
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Originally Posted by mxracer4life
Just curious, what is his length & weight? The vet should have atleast got a weight. The reason I am asking is because 2cc is a lot to give orally. I have had many experienced vets & breeders agree that anything over 1cc orally can be harmful. I learned the wrong way when my vet prescribed Baytril to be given orally (2 cc's) to my 9ft 32lb female BCI and she passed away DUE to the baytril being too strong. Split it up into 2 doses, 1cc at a time. Injecting baytril is much easier, I would agree, and its not as bad as it sounds. Next time you see your vet also ask about Tylan 50 or even Tylan 200, as Tylan is said to be much safer and focuses more on a upper RI. Baytril is an anti-biotic used for more than just respitory infections. Just my 2cents.
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It all depends on the strength of the meds themselves. Like with Tylosin (Tylan) many anti-biotics come in different strengths. The stronger the dosage, the less you need. You will give a lot more tylan 50 then you will tylan 200. I too prefer injections because once you know how to do it properly, it is a lot less stressful then tubing meds down their throat.
I know I can be a bit rash in my communication. It has to do with being raised by filthy heathen biker scum, and how we talk to each other. LOL I also have much more concern for animals, than if I insult someone, or hurt their feelings while giving advice. But I wasn't
trying to be offensive to you, even if it did come out that way.
I wish you the best for your Boa. Good luck.
Rick