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Old 08-10-2008, 08:41 PM   #21
CornNut
Ben Siegel produced a paradox Ivory a week or so ago from a Yellow Belly bred to a proven not yellow belly this year. I had also originally only expected paradoxes showing types that would normally be expected from the breeding under the theory that the paradox is caused by two complete siblings merging. But someone pointed out that there are a lot of different types of chimeras including ones where two sperm fertilize a single egg. Perhaps in that scenario two Mojave sperm somehow made parts of this baby BEL. Very freaky!
 
Old 08-10-2008, 08:53 PM   #22
Mooing Tricycle
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Originally Posted by CornNut
Ben Siegel produced a paradox Ivory a week or so ago from a Yellow Belly bred to a proven not yellow belly this year. I had also originally only expected paradoxes showing types that would normally be expected from the breeding under the theory that the paradox is caused by two complete siblings merging. But someone pointed out that there are a lot of different types of chimeras including ones where two sperm fertilize a single egg. Perhaps in that scenario two Mojave sperm somehow made parts of this baby BEL. Very freaky!
I just read about it on Wiki, to satisfy my curiosity
Indeed it can be caused by two sperm fertilizing one egg. Its pretty interesting I wonder if this is how some of our "codom" animals started? * i dont know, but genetics is such a great topic to talk about!*
 
Old 08-10-2008, 09:19 PM   #23
PythonWallace
That's interesting stuff Randy. It's possible that the 'normal' is a het, but when I saw it this morning, the only thing I could think of was that somehow two mojave sperm fertilized an egg, then one's dna somehow merged with the egg to produce a sort of partial homozygous clone. The female's owner, Jeff Flanagan, will be breeding her to his lesser this year, so I guess only time will tell what's going on here.
 
Old 08-10-2008, 09:22 PM   #24
Gary O
I would be interested in what the father of this clutch produces next year. What will he be paired with?
 
Old 08-10-2008, 09:42 PM   #25
Wolfy-hound
I can't wait until it emerges!!!!!
 
Old 08-10-2008, 10:17 PM   #26
PythonWallace
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Originally Posted by Gary O
I would be interested in what the father of this clutch produces next year. What will he be paired with?
Unfortunately nothing. He died late into this breeding season after fathering at least four clutches of all normal pairings. I hatched a 5 egg clutch last week with 2 mojos, 2 normals and 1 boob egg mojo that died in the egg. After this 7 egg clutch I have 11 more eggs incubating and one more nice big womaish female that looks like she might go this year, but she was also bred to a pastel and possibly a spider. We should have plenty of his offspring to raise up.
 
Old 08-11-2008, 12:00 AM   #27
Gary O
That sucks! Sorry to here. The BEL is a keeper for sure
 
Old 08-11-2008, 02:18 AM   #28
WingedWolf
No matter what we think we know, nature can always find another loop to throw us for. lol
 
Old 08-11-2008, 11:16 AM   #29
PythonWallace
Here it is, in all it's spectacularness.





 
Old 08-11-2008, 11:19 AM   #30
NorthernRegius.com
That has got to be the coolest snake I've seen this year! Congrats- boy or girl?
 

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