Rumors are not always true:

To all concerned,

We at east coast reptiles would like to make it public to everyone involved with talking bad about us or our show. There have been a lot of rumors floating around about us and i would like to clear the board and state what we have to say.
First off this quarrel with Tony Cueto we do not want to continue and did not want it to start. We are not trying to take tonys shows away from him nor are spreading lies about him. Half of the information we know about him came from people who have worked with him and are now saying we did it. We do half proof on a lot of the issues concerning him and they are all from him and his friends emailing us.
As for the vendors we do not want anyone to choose we feel you all should be able to do as many shows as you would like with out getting the hassle and should be able to do well at all shows. Without the promoter there would not be any shows and without the vendors there would be no shows.
As for our last show we made mistakes and do not blame anyone and did not put all the work on the people who were helping us. The work that they did fork out they chose to do and we tried to help but they chose to do it on their own. They also used to work for Mr. Cueto and then came to us and said Mr. Cueto mistreated them and they wanted to take him under, and in return he called them disgruntled employees and we have proof of that as well. Everyone makes mistakes and it is not right to listen to rumors that are not true unless you talk to who their about. For our next show we are trying to do something different. We will also get the advertisement out there as well. Every show is not going to be perfect and lord knows that. Although you may have done shows for years and years some shows still fail, for example Raleigh, from what we have heard from vendors and that is as far as it goes because we were not there.
For instance there are rumors going around about tony but that does not stop vendors nor attendees from going to the show. We should all stick to together to keep this passion for reptiles going so they do not continue to outlaw them. No one show promoter is going to be around forever and if a new one comes in to carry on what you have been fighting so hard to keep around you should help them.
We would like to know what we can do to make the shows better but if we do not hear from you then we will not know the ideas. We are far from perfect and will be the first to admit that. As for if you hear anything and have questions please ask us before you make up your mind.

sincerely,
lisa campbell

I dont know about your show. But the ones in florida are pretty stale. Plus the prices are higher then pet stores.

Lisa,
You fail to mention all your shortcomings, which are many. You do not listen to anything or anyone, IE: Forum rules, we are not in the BOI, you have to pay to post there. If you would have read those rules and disclosures you would know that. I also would like to invite you to TRR's War Room so we can talk about this matter un-"civily" since that's the way you want to go about this. In case your short bus forgot to pick you up today, it's thereptileroom.org and private message Gary about getting access to the War Room. As for all this "wa wa boo hoo they didn't let us do anything" cry-baby story, look at yourselves for just one minute and ask yourself... would you want yourself making any decisions regarding a show? which might I add, Columbia was you FIRST show.. You have never even steped foot into another show in your life, let alone know how to sex a 9ft boa constrictor..

This is all I have to say on this matter. if you have any spines what-so-ever I will see you in the War Room.

Sincearly,
Jason VanderWaal
J & M Exotics

Lisa and Jason
I have thought long and hard about responding to you. I am not and I repeat I am not going to get into a pi***** duel with you. But there are a few things that I have to say.
1) You both need to show what you did for the April show. Can you provide and receipts other than the rent for the temple, ad that you did with Ghann's in Reptiles Magazine and the Insurance? You and I both know you can't! We have ALL the receipts for ads, fliers, supplies, ECT.
2) How many of the sponsors did you contact? 2 those being Ghann's Crickets and Aiken Feeder Food!
3) How many vendors did you keep in contact with more than 1 or 2 times? Post proof!
4) How many times did you call me telling me to re contact the vendors because "someone was causing trouble"?
5) We never said Tony did anything wrong to us. We told you two repeatedly not to mess with Tony! If you have proof otherwise then post it!
6) We received a forwarded email that you had sent to someone stating that we worked for you. If that is the case then you owe us money for what we did. You and I both know how hard we worked on this show. And never got the recognition for it. If you do not plan on paying us what we are owed then what we did was sponsor you. Put our link back on the show site as sponsors or take all sponsors that we off! Simple enough for you?
7) Explain to me/us what you did that we re did and the reason why?
8) We are not slandering you. What we have stated is the truth and we have EVERY email from the very first one. Do you want to post email for email? I am ready any time you are.
9) I do agree with you on working together for the reptile industry. But what you fell to see is that you might want to learn a little more about the animals that you own and how treating people with respect works.
10) You fell to tell everyone why there were no radio ads for the show! Would you like to explain that to everyone?
There is so much I would like to say but this is neither the time nor the place for it!

I hope you have learned something from this whole deal. And wish you well in life.

To the Webslave and mods of this forum: I apologize for letting this go on in the wrong forum and request that this thread and the others pertaining to this subject be moved to the proper forum.

Sincerely,
Cathy Elrod

I think it would be unfair to move this to the BOI becuse then she would have to pay to defend herself.

Vince
If they move it to either BOI or Hell all they have to do is email webslave and ask for permission to defend themselves. I think hell would be the proper place because it will get heated but its webslave's call.

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Vic or Victoria (babysmama) is the ex of Jason Campbell she used to use his old login name when they were together. It is not the same person. She helped to prove that the Jason on the thread on the BOI is in fact
the husband of Lisa Campbell who started this thread.

It would appear others worked hard to promote this show but Jason and Lisa will not give them credit for what they did.

I would let the others recap the rest because I’m not sure how they all fit in.

My bad, the rambling made me think Jason.

Let me have the pleasure of confusing you even more. There are actually two Jasons involved in all this. Jason Campbell-the lying, cheating, scamming, unfit father that is married to Lisa. Then there's Jason Vander Waal(the good guy). Jason VW is one of the people exposing the Campbells for the crooks they are. You know, buyer beware! He's also one of the many people who worked hard to make the Columbia SC show a success.
Audry