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I was referring to the folks that jumped to your (and Neil's) defense over this simple inquiry that opened the gates of hell.
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All you had to do was let your loyal customers speak up for your ethics and poof this thread would have eventually died a horrible death.
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Is it just me or are those statements somewhat contradictory Dwight?
You pretty much flat out state that anyone who deffended Neil or Jewell's ethics was a "clique" and then a few posts later, state that all they should have done was allow people to come onto the board to deffend their ethics...
I know it was on a seperate page of the thread but they do both come up when you write a response (or at least did for me and my post is several behind yours) so you really have no reason to say such contradictory things and pretty much blowing whatever valid points there were to your argument.
I think that, outside of myself, everyone who posted in Neil and Jewells deffense has actually done buisness with them. While I haven't sent them money, I have talked to Neil via e-mail about a few potential purchases, even knowing his dislike for window shoppers because I don't have PayPal, I have seen the way they both conduct themselves on this board and I have seen pictures of Neil's animals... Further I have seen the support that they both get from a great number of people who I have nothing but the utmost respect for. I've read and seen and heard dozens, perhaps even hundreds of supportive comments for the Snake Pit and everyone associated with it, if my post stating essentially the same thing as your second quote there was somehow the result of a BOI Cult (I thought we were supposed to be worshiping Ritchie, but I figured I'd skip that for now and just recant on my death bed allowing me into BOI Heaven) then so be it I guess.
I've asked this a few times before on threads where that phrase has come up and I'll ask it again here for you...
Is it impossible that there are just a number of people who share the same ideals, morals and to some degree, viewpoints?
What about that concept seems so foreign to you? That people may all look, independantly and with the greatest amount of objectivity possible while still remaining human, at the same situation and come to the same or similar conclusions... Why do so many people seem to think that it's the result of something else? By your seeming logic, nobody could ever be convicted of a crime in court unless the entire Jury were made up of the victim's best friends, your assertations that there is anything outside of a mutually compatable viewpoint and perhaps some buisness dealings connecting the majority of posters on this board is ludicrous.
You disagree that there was anything overtly nasty or vindictive sounding about the initial post, that's fine, you are, as everyone is, entitled to your own opinion and the ability to voice it. Many people seem to have read just as much as Jewell and Neil did based on the manner that the post was worded, especially after it has come to light that Sean already knew and had spoken to Jewell over an extended period of time.
There is an enormous emotional insinuation that there is something immoral going on based on their both posting the same snakes each for their own prices. There is nothing wrong with that whatsoever, it doesn't happen as commonly with reptiles but take, for instance, large mammals; frequently brokered and frequently the same animal may be on the lists of multiple individuals. Each og those individuals has the price they must pay for the animal and then they add whatever they feel they should make as a profit ontop of that. Some may have the same price, most probably won't, each seeing a slightly different value to their own efforts to getting it sold or their own overhead for the selling. Such is the exact case with Neil and Jewell, she analyzed the situation and decided that she didn't really need an enormous (or virtually any) profit off the potential sale, Neil decided that he may as well make a few bucks because, as I'm sure anyone who has ever owned or done the books for a retail pet shop knows, the overhead is enormous and the profit margin extremely thin. There is nothing immoral about either of their descisions whatsoever, in my opinion of course... They really didn't respond all that badly either, for Neil, the random function of his caps lock key is old news and for Jewell... well, it really did read as if he suspected she was a crook, if that isn't justification for being a bit upset, I'm not too sure what is. It isn't as if she threatened to meet him at a show because she's an eleven foot tall gamma irradiated scientist constantly getting into fights with the US military and patching up her purple pants after she gets irritated, she reacted fairly well considering. The further posts of people stating they wouldn't do buisness with her were loaded with barbs and insults and petty wisecracks which is, again, pretty reasonable justification for being a bit annoyed.
I'm not the only one who has said this on this thread... the wording of the initial inquirey seemed loaded with a number of insinuations, people can easily say something without actually saying it just by altering their wording. What I personally got out of the initial post was that Sean had never so much as hear of Golden Serpents, had no idea who she was, thought she might be upo to something immoral or illegal because of the identical ads and wanted someone to come forth with experiences, probably hoping for some negative ones... Now, it turned out that he's had a fairly good amount of communication with both Jewell and Neil although now there is contention over a phone call... but that clearly shows that he wasn't oblivious to her existance and, based off the wording... Yes, it does SEEM as if there had to be some motive to post that using the wording and giving the impressions that he did.
I suppose it's possible that I just read too much into the way the initial post was phrased but if I did, I'm certainly not the only one, many others have echoed those sentiments and, if it really was entirely innocent, I do feel that he should apologize for the impression that was given, inadvertant or not.
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