Update on Dave Lawson Situation

This post is to let everyone know what has happened with Dave Lawson & I. I know that on July 16 I posted that he has made everything right, Well I ONLY posted this because Dave told me spam_would not do anything or make anything correct until I did this. I just wanted everything to be corrected so I did post that he made it right. As you know it has been 2 weeks since I posted this. As of today NOTHING has been done still. I tried to call Dave, when he answerd and I began to speak he decided to hang up on me, Well later that day I had called again.
I spoke to Dave he told me her was willing to swap animals for the $ 395.00 that we lost. I told Dave that I wanted him to find more Ball Pythons or to give me the money back. He told me there were NO more Balls coming in anywhere, he did not say anything about they money. Again I called and asked Dave what was going on, in response he said he did not know what animals he had ( HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHAT YOUR INVENTORY IS FOR YOUR BUSINESS?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??? <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ) The last time I talked to Dave was on Tuesday night following the Melbourne Show. All he does is keep saying the same thing over and over, " I'll swap you animals,but I don't know what
I have." I told Dave that all I want now is my money
back. Since I have said this I have not heard one thing from Dave. I still try to call but there is never an answer on either phone that I call. Since the first day that we told him what was going on with the animals he avoided the problem, my phone calls, and e-mails.
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Ronald Allen
Constrictors Exotic Reptiles
(813) 719-6130

Figures! Gee...why am I NOT surprised? ....Neil

Neil,
Can you do all of us a favor & stay out of this one, You actually do more damage then good by posting on this one because people see your name & Daves & will stay out of this post. Ronald needs to expose his problem with his dealing with Dave & I beleive your name on here will push some people away. Anyone want to correct me if im wrong on this one? By the way I don't know or never dealth with Neil or Dave, I just don't want Ronalds point to get lost in the Dave/Neil thing.
Chris Pearson

Chris....I agree! That's why I just put in a one-liner....I will NOT reply to this thread again...but...I'll bet you that the subject of this thread doesn't have the moral fiber to make this right!! I'm done! ....Neil

Neil, You are a trouble maker of the worst kind!

Casey...I "thought" I'd be able to stay off this thread!! Why do you say I'm a troublemaker? Why should this slimeball be treated any different than we treat all other slimeballs on this site!! He did the wrong thing! He basically stole somebody else's money, and you think it's OK, huh?? I notice you didn't have the character needed to say anything about it?? But, you have the nerve to tell me I'm a troublemaker?? If it were you, or anybody else in the herp business that was at fault...We'd be on them like white on rice, too! Lawson is no exception! He screwed Ron over big time and refuses to make it right! How is that my fault?? For pointing it out like I do to everybody that screws up?? How bout getting off your high horse about me, and get to the subject at hand....or is that too difficult....Neil

I will start out by reminding the webslave that he stated,anyone calling a person maggot,slimeball ect...... would be banded from this entire site.You even said that this includes Neil.I am now asking you to apply this rule to Neil Gubitz.

On to Ron,

1)I sold those animals to him on the 26th of June he had those animals for 10 day before I heard a word about anything dying and even then I was told of 3 balls.I never talked to him it was always his wife and I spoke to her each and every time she called (3 or 4 times daily).I was told that they shipped off 5 balls to some lady and that for what ever reason shipped them all back and bam they all started to die.

2) I did tell them that I would exchange 3 balls for the for that first died.That was fine with them.

3)Then I get a call from his wife saying that now everything has stopped eating and Ron is force feeding everything.

4)Then I read this post by Ron saying that I have not been returning calls or e-mails I called his number and spoke to his wife and told her of what Ron posted and that they need to correct it right away.I in no way said to post a bold face lie only that I have not avoided them in any way.

5)I told them that no body was going to replace animals after almost 2 weeks and never after they have shipped them off and let them come right back.

6)I am not going to spend time on this mess he went over each animal before he paid for them and was very happy.He has misinformed the people on the forum.Hell I ask him if he had the bodies and she told me 16 out of 30.I sold 270 baby balls out of the same group and not one other person has said squat.

I was willing to go ahead and try to work something out but after this I think not.I feel like he took my kindness as a weakness.

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Neil. BYE! I hope.

well dave it was not 10 days later it was 3 when we started telling you the problem &nbsp;we were having with those snakes you know if it would have been 3 or 4 that died i would have been fine with that but when it is all 25 plus a uromastic that never eat at all and 2 baby beardies that died because they were not eating either out of all the animals i got from you the 10 burms and the 6 rock pytons were the only ones that eat and as far as have the bodies i have all of them you told me that if i retracted my last post that you would make it right but you have yet to do this and i had all the balls sold and the uromasics + the beardies and because of this i had to find a new dealer i spent more that i made because you sold me sick animals that the only thing they are good for are freezer oriments

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ronald allen
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; constrictors exotic reptiles
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(813) 967-0583

Well for one thing, if this is true about this situation then I do not feel Neil needs tobe banned from the site. It seems to me that if was anyone else out there that this situation was happening to then everyone would be jumping on the bandwagon to crucify him. &nbsp;I don't think the other thread has anything to do with this thread. I don't know for a fact that this situation is true but it seems this person would not come on here if it were not. Either way we have heard from Ron, and we have heard from Dave on it now each person can make their own decision on what is right and wrong. Casey, you called neil a Troublemaker well that is like the Pot calling the Kettle black. You are doing the same type of thing by everytime neil makes a post you feel compelled to jump down his throat. If you have a problem with neil or anyone for that matter please e-mail them in private. This thread was not a place for you to jump on Neil as it has nothing to do with this thread at all and served no purpose other than to make you feel like your the bigger person. It did not in my eyes, only made you look like your after Neil. just my 0.02 cents take it as you wish.