"hog island" responsible breeding, oppinions?

That snake appears to be a Hog Island as much as any. I would definatley breed it to a Hog Island if that was your first choice. You goto a reptile show, and half the people selling Hog Islands could not tell you their exact background. Im not saying thats good, but thats the truth. I have a pair of what was told to me as being pure hog island, that snake looks just like it. However, when you look at the original Hog Island, it looks nothing like it, the original didnt have alot of peach and pink, and was heavily speckeled, and more drab grey. I would call your animal a Hog Island Boa.

Originally Posted by JohnnyK

However, when you look at the original Hog Island, it looks nothing like it, the original didnt have alot of peach and pink, and was heavily speckeled, and more drab grey.

Something like this?




Hogs are known for some decent degree of color change. Same animal...





But I agree, looks more like a Hog than anything else.

Originally Posted by Metachrosis

Just do a 2:1 breeding group tween a morph and a classic and be content with which ever gets the job done.

That really comes off as "just breed her because you can".
Whatever happened to goals and selective breeding processes? I'm not even addressing the locality vs morph question, as that is wholly separate & dependent on the individual...but make a choice and run with it. Keep in mind that the sunsets (& sunset crosses) that people seem to like so much are the products of very selective breeding. Just like there are a lot of drab hypos out there now (or pastel BPs, if you want to look in that direction), there are some poorly colored sunsets. If that is the direction you want to run in, get yourself a great looking hypo (a super, or poss, would be even better). While working on that decision, think about what you want your end product to be...maybe you want to work toward smaller animals - consider a CA hypo from small (not just young) parents.
Now, consider the question of "what do I call the babies"...with a 2:1 breeding group, it is quite possible that BOTH males will have sired babies in that litter (or don't people think that can happen anymore?).

Oh...btw. Don't forget that your first hypo x hog breeding will yield (non hypos and) sunset crosses - the sunset boa is the "super" form, and is still a generation away.

I know I ran with the hypo x hog idea, and it wasn't even presented by the OP...not sure why that one got stuck in my head (aside from being the more common morph bred into the hog island group, and Micah poisoning my thoughts with it, lol).
Do what works toward your goals, Jake....but know what those goals are before throwing a male to her.

Is breeding a BCI with a BCI crossing?

Is breeding a BCC to another BCC crossing?

Yes I think it is. A Sonora Boa doesn't look anything like a Colombian but they're both BCI. Same with a Peruvian and a Guyana Boa. While technically not cross breeding what do you end up with? -- a mutt.

With that said, I agree with Rick and Wes. Breed them and just don't say more than you can back up.

Jake, I think you can do whatever you want with her, she looks like a Hog, so you can make more Hogs with her and sell them as Hogs, just not verified ones. Then you could breed her and make crosses, just have to think about the benefits and drawbacks to that. Basically, it's your call.

Chris

This subject comes up time and time again... And it amazes me people can't look past the first generation. It's commonly said "Just make sure you represent the offspring as what they really are or are thought to be..."...

But what happens 3 generations later and 500-1000 different 'grand children' spread out to just as many different owners.

Of course it's easy for an honest breeder to represent the first set of offspring as what they are or thought to be... Think a little bit further down the line. Really amazing stuff.

BTW: I'm in no way recommending you don't breed the guy/gal, I hope it didn't come off that way, but IMO the worst thing you could do would be to breed what you believe to be a hog to anything other than another hog.

You could breed it to a really nice hypo and possibly get one of these. I know alot think they are mutts, and yes its a cross, but I wasnt the first to do it, and I just think that hypo hogs, and sunsets are gorgeous snakes.