A couple of questions for Neil Gub...The Snake Pit

Just a note - I think you, Neil, dealt with this very well - you stuck to the facts and proved your point without needing to personally [and childishly] attack anyone.

I probably will never do business in the US, but if I did, I wouldn't mind coming down to see your store. =)

Julianna White

Julianna....You're more than welcome, but PLEASE!! DON'T come during business hours...the place is A MESS!! hahahaha ....Neil

Julianna White,
&nbsp; &nbsp; I will be the first one to admit, that sometimes my mouth is two steps in front of my brain!<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>! &nbsp;And Julianna if my words offended you?? I will apologize to YOU!! And on the same note you could have stopped reading at anytime. When I post a statement, my real name is at the bottom every time. &nbsp;If you don't think that the first post that this "person" made, was not childish and sarcastic?? Than please read it again. It is obvious to at least me that this "person" knew what was going to happen when he made the post?? Or this "person" would have used his real name in the first place!! I will say it again, if my words offended you Julianna?? Then I do apologize to YOU!
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Tom

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chupacabra @ Feb. 26 2002,12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ritchie, this post was started by me (Lennox) not Gary. So if you decided to read the thread again you can keep on posting b/c I DO know my name.................................

Sincerely,
Lennox Williamson?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
don't you just hate it when someone basically tells you to reread things because you supposedly can't read.

But then it turns out...this person does not know their real name....or purposely witheld their real name.

Two complaints about neil. &nbsp;Both of them did not use their real names. &nbsp;One can only conclude that these people are making up stories. &nbsp;Because...oh I don't know.....maybe they were bored and were looking for attention......then they make it sound like they were just trying to see who would figure it out first. &nbsp;But they were actually just trying to pull one over on everyone.....AND KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE RULES !!!!

Didn't people get banned for posting under fake names?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (J. White @ Feb. 28 2002,19<!--emo&<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sorry about that, then, but even so -

Why would he WANT to use his real name if it's going to be attached to a string of posts like these?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
If it were a valid complaint...he would have used his real name. spam_ That is a MAJOR RULE of this forum

But apperantly it is not a valid complaint.....because there are customers who have been in Neil's store more recently...and not like ten years ago or whatever.....and they all say his store is fine.

If you are gonna make a complaint....I say it should be an up to date complaint...not one of these
"When I was five I went to Neil's store and it was filthy....well I am now thirty and thought I would complain about it now"

come on give us a break.

look for attention somewhere else.

If I had a complaint about "a Big Breeder" you can be sure 100% that I would use my real name......and I would not worry about anyone attacking me...because I would not care.
As long as I have a legitimate complaint....and if what I say is true and can be proven...and if I use my real name... I KNOW I would NOT get attacked.

Here are some rules to be sure not to get attacked.
1. spam_Think customers first
2. spam_Post with your real name.
3. spam_Post all the details (time,date, price, animal, who, what, when, where, why, how, pictures if available)
4. spam_Tell the truth.
5. spam_Post a legitimate complaint....not a whiny baby complaint.

example of whiny baby complaint.
1. spam_The shipping company shipped it late....and the heater stopped working. spam_(not the seller's fault)
2. spam_it took him a whole ten mintues to return my (e-mail, call, whatever)
3. spam_he had a hundred enclosures....and 3 of them had poo poo
4. spam_he is a smoker and he is gonna rot in h3ll (chame chame chame)
5. spam_he wipes back to front instead of whiping front to back.
6. he leaves the toilet seat up.

etc etc etc

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">don't you just hate it when someone basically tells you to reread things because you supposedly can't read.
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Actually, what I really hate is the fact that Lennox's(?) post did have some legitimacy, but he handled himself wrongly. As I said before, any concerns should have been addressed to Neil on the spot. If that did not acheive satisfactory results, then Lennox would have been justified in posting his concerns. There's a right way and a wrong way to handle things, and Lennox chose the wrong way.

The part of Lennox's post that I view as legit is that which mentions smoking around herps. Unfortunately, some have taken this as a smokers vs nonsmokers issue, which it is not. It's about animals whose systems are more sensetive to environmental impurities, and who do not have the option of going to a smoke-free area. Neil, I would hope for the sake of your animals that you discontinue smoking in the store, if you haven't already.

As for the accusations of poor husbandry, even without seeing the pics, I feel that that concern has been adequately debunked,

Ken...I hear ya...but, as much as I'd like to...I just can't! I smoke! It's a bad habit, I know, but...I smoke? I know very well how cigarettes can affect animals....but...I smoke? If I went outside to have one...I'd NEVER be in the store (which, for some, might be a GOOD thing&#33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> lol! That's the main reason I put a LARGE exhaust fan in the back door, and there is nothing in the way of the front door to back door airflow....the only air that is in the front of the store is the air that's brought in when the door opens...everything else gets sucked right out the back....and very well, too! I could certainly understand if I was in an enclosed area with no ventilation, but my place is vastly different...I'm sure they can still be affected in some way....but, they're just going to have to live with it! I haven't had any problems because of the smoke, so far?? I figure if it ain't broke...don't fix it! So, for all of you who are either allergic to smoke, or you just don't like it...well, I'm sorry, but I can't stop....obviously, it's your choice whether you come into my place, or not ....with no hard feelings on my end, at least....Neil

Definitely no hard feelings Neil, and perhaps I'll drop by the next time I'm down at MacDill, whenever that may be.

The exhaust fan is a good idea put to good use. As usual, you seem to be one step ahead....lol.

Hey Ken....Seeing as you're going to be at McDill...bring your OWN gas mask!! Mine are for my COUGHING customers!! hahaha ....Neil

I agree he has some points...
But when they post under a anonymous name...it makes me...go on the automatic attack.

Then he tells me to reread..because he knows his name. &nbsp;That urked me because he clearly does not.

But yes you are right..he had some good points....just a very bad way of dealing with it. &nbsp;But I guess in his opinion it was a good way....But hey I guess we are all entitled to our own opinions.