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Old 03-20-2011, 10:13 AM   #51
Hybridbird
You are wrong on so many counts, that I won't even attempt to address them all here. Lets be clear on one thing though, I posses a current conditional species permit an ROC permit and Class 3 permit so I can tell you this much. I would not want to be one caught selling (in FL or out) without all 3.
 
Old 03-20-2011, 11:05 AM   #52
Hybridbird
Also, for the record, ROC permits went into effect 1 July 08 and Conditional Species permits (which is what ROCs are classified as now) went into effect 1 July 2010. Class 3 permits are required to sell ANY wildlife, if YOU live in Florida and you are selling any wildlife even if you sell every single one out of state, you are required to have a Class 3 permit for the specific species you are selling, so in effect, the Class 3 does have something to do with breeding.Unless of course you are going to breed and keep every offspring you are going to produce, or give them all away for free...but I'm sure there's a rule against that as well somewhere, if you look hard enough.
 
Old 03-20-2011, 01:40 PM   #53
rcpreis3
There isnt a rule against breeding and giving them away what so ever and its what ive done with 99% of what ive produced, I sold one normal ball for 20 bucks. I dont have the class three, but spoke with the lady that handles all the nonnative collections permits and such for quite a while on the phone and for quite a while on all these subjects. Im fairly sure that NO ONE that wasnt an established breeder of ROCS, and incorporated as such before they became conditional species, would be allowed to breed them.

Also on another note this would actually be the perfect place to address where I am wrong. Those who say "your wrong but I wont bother addressing it" make no sense. What the point of halfassing it and just saying im wrong?

You cannot collect any nonnative species without first having a permit to collect, and then a permit (ROC/Conditional Species) to keep. I was planning on collecting Wild RES and hybrids and adopting them out of state and this is what I was told. By the lady who decides whether its worth wasting the time to send u paper work in the first place. And the same goes for any other nonnative evasive species collecting.

If someone had 2 pet burms since 06, got their ROCs in 08, and then decided to breed next year (2012) will be subject to fines and possible loss of animals. Thats how it is. You cant breed ROCS/Conditional species in Florida unless special requirements were met by the stated time a few years ago.
 

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