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General Legislative Discussions Any general discussion concerning legislative issues or events. Not necessarily specific to a particular region, or even a type of animal group. |
01-02-2013, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JColt
Im guessing that website is not allowed to be posted here?
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that is correct
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01-02-2013, 01:01 PM
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#42
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screenshot removed -AbsoluteApril
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01-02-2013, 01:09 PM
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Someone wants an infraction ...
Larry summed it up well, though.
I'm wondering, can anyone who was at Tinley provide answers as to what went down there? A lot of people are mentioning it, so it must (they feel) have played some pivotal role in all of this?
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01-02-2013, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tarawr
I'm holding off on donating to either until such a time as I have a better feel for what is going on.
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I think that is a wise approach. If all that is available is soothing comments that although no particulars can be discussed, everything is safe and it is all gonna be OK, we have heard such assurances from politicians when something goes down, and we all know how that goes.
What with the fact based approach we have come to expect on the BOI which has changed the way we see the reptile world, vague assurances don't get it anymore.
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01-02-2013, 07:08 PM
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To everyone concerned I say sit back and make your own judgements as the organization proceeds in 2013. I cannot force people to join nor pledge their continued support. However I would expect people to make their own minds up as we elect a new president and present new alliances that with strengthen us, and do so with a fresh mindset.
Regards
Warren
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01-02-2013, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Warren_Booth
fresh mindset.
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You mean (in politic-speak) that we should ignore the vague and suspicious split and new organization that seems to have many of the same goals as USARK, we should not ask too hard where all the previous money contributed has gone and will go ("Oh, it's fine", won't get it) and just sit around and watch and just fork over cash when asked?
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Originally Posted by Warren_Booth
I would expect people to make their own minds up
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I think they are doing so.
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01-02-2013, 07:51 PM
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Lucille,
From reading your posts I am aware you have never appeared to be a supporter of USARK. That is fine and everyone has their own opinions to make. USARKs budget is openly available to the public to see. The money donated will continue to be spent in the same way it always has, I.e. to support the herp nation, promote the association, and fight legislation.
As I say, I cannot force people to suddenly change opinions or walk away happily with my answers, but I truly cannot say anything more. If you do not like or want to support USARK, do not support us. I am not asking you to support other associations either as I only represent USARK as a non-paid board member (as all board members are).
Regards,
Warren
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01-02-2013, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Warren_Booth
If you do not like or want to support USARK, do not support us.
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I am perfectly aware that I can choose to support who I wish. I am also aware that many are asking the same sorts of questions that I am asking, and you in your last post neatly turned the focus on me, and away from the answers that are being sought.
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01-02-2013, 08:06 PM
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Sorry Lucille, I did not mean to direct this to you. I offer my sincerest appology.
I simply cannot answer many of these questions as I do not know the answers. For example, I was at Tinley but was not aware that Andrew was removed, if indeed that was true. My only communication with Andrew at that show was at a board meeting on the Friday. Sorry I cannot help further. Secondly, no money has ever been mishandled or stolen as suggested above. As I say, our budgets are open to the public and all spending is clearly laid out. Not sure what else there is to address.
We (USARK) and Andrew Wyatt have simply come to an impass in terms of our philosophies as to the role and future of USARK in the herp community and industry. Our (USARK) philosophy has not changed from that which we have followed from day one. It will be up to the herp community to decide which organizations philosophy they prefer.
Again, please accept my appology, it was not a personal attack on you.
Regards,
Warren
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