On March fourth I was browsing the Gecko Classifieds here and I found "The Crestie Of My Dreams" so I bought it
Later that same day the same seller listed another absolutely beautiful Crestie and I also bought it
The prices on both geckos were too good to be true-but I have recently purchased some awesome leopard geckos at some fantastic prices so I wasn't too concerned at the time
The sellers name in the ad was Jesse Fricker and that was the account that I PayPal-ed my monies to
I used a green Dot Visa card as the funding which is a pre-paid Visa card
The correspondence back and forth between us was extremely amiable and we both agreed that since the weather turned extremely cold shortly after my purchases-that we would wait on shipping
This past week the weather was finally going to be perfect for shipping n both of our locations and the day was set for Wednesday March 28th and we both agreed that USPS overnight would be acceptable since the temps would be well above freezing and both of us have had very positive experiences using them in the past
The last e-mail that I received from James Skinny that mentioned shipping the 2 Cresteds was on 3/26/2007 1:06:47 PM
I say "that mentioned the cresteds" because we had covered a lot of other subjects in our extremely pleasant emails
Wednesday night came and went with no email and no tracking number from James and I have yet to receive any other correspondence with an explanation of what might have happened this time to prevent him from shipping them despite 3 more e-mails from myself to his addy
I have been buying reptiles online for my private collection for around 4 years now and I have been extremely fortunate with dealing with 100% honest people
When Wednesday came and went without a tracking number and no word what-so ever from James-I was at a loss as what to think
I had come here to the BOI to check on his name and see if it might have been mentioned in an inquiry and I found a negative post about him
I wasn't real comfortable with reading what had happened to Jerry because I was in pretty much the same situation and I figured at that point that I was never going to see those 2 Geckos
But I waited on posting here and contacting PayPal for a claims dispute-I guess that I was still hoping for that email with an explanation from James
I did PM Jerry to ask him if he had ever received either the gecko or a refund of his money and he replied that he had not
Today-I put in a resolution dispute with PayPal and so far I have received nothing from James Skinny etc. and although I feel very awkward posting this I really do not know what to think except that I am not ever going to see those 2 Geckos or my money if I do not do something
I am extremely stressed due to other things going on in my life and some of it is mentioned in the correspondence and I hope that I am not jumping the gun on this-so to speak
I am just so very confused after the great communication that went back and forth between us and still no geckos and now nothing in the way of communication from him
Here is EVERY PIECE of correspondence between myself and him
Some of it is a bit personal and i would rather not post it here but for it all to make sense I will post every e-mail between Jesse Fricker-James Skinny and Jennifer Skinny in it's entirety
At this point I would just like to receive a refund for the total price of $225.00 for both Geckos
Sandra Peraziana
First Ad
"Orange Fire" Dalmation Crested Female
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Female "Orange Fire" Dalmation Crested Gecko. She is about 11 months old and ready to be bred. Her color is awesome! This picture really doen't do her justice. Asking $100 plus shipping. Shipping charges will be between $20 and $30 (overnight of course) depending on your location.
SkiNNieZ Reptiles & Amphibians
skinniez@hotmail.com
> > >From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
> > >To: <skinniez@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
> > >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 02:39:23 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
> > >
> > >Hi James
> > >Is this female still available ?
> > >I am very interested in her
> > >
> > >Thanks so very much for your time
> > >Sandy
> > >
> > ><< 02222.jpg >>
> >
> >
> >-------Original Message-------
> >
> >From: Jesse fricker
> >Date: 3/4/2007 9:04:25 AM
> >To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
> >Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
> >
> >Yes Sandy, she is still available. I have had a lot of people respond to
> >this ad in the last 12 hours so I don't know how long she will be here
>but
> >at the moment she is still available. First come first serve so the
>first
> >one to put money on her gets her. She is truly a fantastic gecko.
> >
> >James
>
> >From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
> >To: "Jesse fricker" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:10:54 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
> >
> >Hi James
> >What wold the total be on her with shipping to Illinois 60970 please
> >And do you take PayPal and what is your PayPal info?
> >SANDY
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Jesse fricker
>Date: 3/4/2007 9:23:00 AM
>To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
>Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
>
>Fed-ex overnight will be $30 (its actually more but I will cover the rest).
>If you can pick up at the post office, I can have to you buy 10am and it
>will only cost you $15 for shipping. I prefer USPS, not because its
>cheaper, after all you are paying the shipping, but I find them to be much
>gentler with their cargo. So fed-ex will be $130 and USPS (pick up at post
>office ) would be $115. You can pay-pal to this e-mail but if you do
>paypal
>through an electronic check, it will take a few days to clear and I can't
>ship until it clears.
>
>James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "Jesse fricker" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:28:32 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>James
>USPS is fine with me as long as it is guaranteed overnight
>I will transfer $115.00 to your Paypal account in the next half hour
>It will be from a prepaid credit card so the transfer should be instant
>
>
>Sandy
SkiNNieZ Reptiles & Amphibians
skinniez@hotmail.com
Very good. I will mark her as sold as soon as I get that. I'm more then
Glad to take her off the list. I have spent the better part of the morning
Responding to this ad.
Thanks,
James
SkiNNieZ Reptiles and Amphibians
2nd Ad
Ad on faunaclassifieds/forums/showthread.php?t=96986
"Orange Fire Harley" crested gecko
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have never seen such amazing colors in a Harley cresty. The orange is so brite that I've had trouble taking pictures of it in direct sunlight. This is a subadult male. Sorry, no females for sale at this time. I am selling this one for $120 plus shipping. Shipping is between 20 and $30 depending on your location.
SkiNNieZ Reptiles & Amphibians
skinniez@hotmail.com
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "Jesse fricker" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:49:00 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>
>James
>I see that you will be posting more geckos this afternoon
>Would it be possible to get a sneak preview of what you have for sale
>I might want to add an other gecko to that box-lol
>Thanks
>
>Sandy
-------Original Message-------
From: Jesse fricker
Date: 3/4/2007 9:57:30 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
Unfortunately my daughter has my digital camera for the day and I don't have
Any stock photos of these guys. I can tell you that I have a Harley Male
And a pair of stunning "Bloodred" juveniles (too young to sex). The Harley
Male Im not sure about getting rid of yet but I will be selling the
Bloodreds for $100 each. I will try to get you pics first if you think you
May be interested.
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/4/2007 12:37:14 PM
To: Jesse fricker
Subject: RE: Female fire crested for sale On Fauna
James- I also want that male that you just put up
Is the $120.00 price firm-just had to ask-or can I get a small discount for buying two?
I have to get my money together for this one
I will get back to you
But I do want him
Thanks
Sandy
-------Original Message-------
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 12:49:44 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
The best I can do is $110 and since you already have an order in, there will
Be no shipping. It is however, first come first serve. I can give you a
Little preference and not respond to any potential buyers for a while but I
Already have 5 emails besides your about him. How long do you think you
Will need?
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/4/2007 1:16:14 PM
To: James skinny
Subject: re: new male
I have a few things that I absolutely HAVE to do before I can run out and put more money on my card but I can put a $50.00 deposit on him in your paypal account as soon I get done with making dinner
Say in about 15 minutes
That OK for now???
Can we do that and I will get the balance to you by 7 PM tonight?
Thanks for working with me
Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 1:24:38 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
That would be great. Actually I already removed the ad and I was just
About to write you to tell you he's yours. Just let me know when you make
That payment, that's all. Actually, before you make that payment, I should
Tell you that this guy is pretty small. I had an argument with one of the
People who responded to the ad about the definition of "sub-adult". When I
Say sub-adult, I mean he is old enough to sex, that's all. I don't know if
You were planning to breed him or not, but it will be at least a month or
Two before he is ready for breeding. I just wanted to clarify that before
We go any further. Overall length, he is probably about five inches long.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: re: new male
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:35:57 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>James
>Thanks so very much
>I will get that $50 .00 transferred ASAP
>I am still trying to cook dinner and type at the same time
>His size will be fine
>I am not planning on breeding him right away
>
>Thanks so very much
>Just give me a bit more time to get that $50 transferred to your paypal
>account
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 1:53:35 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
Take your time, don't burn anything....
Like I said he is yours. Just let me know when you make that payment so I
Can transfer it, that's all. Im actually trying to cook for the kids myself.
Thanks,
James
From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: re: new male
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:01:42 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>James
>Thanks for being so understanding
>How long have you been working with Cresties's ?
>The 2 that I have seen so far from you are some of the nicest that I have
>ever seen
>Did you hatch these guys out yourself?
>Hope that I'm not being too nosey-lol
>
>I'm going to go to get that money on my card within the hour
>Do you want me to make the two payments or just one for $110.00?
>
>Thanks
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 2:10:24 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
The payment thing is entirely up to you and no, you're not being to nosy. I
Have worked with cresties for about four years. Its funny, I actually
Prefer working with snakes and I almost got out of cresties entirely, but
Then I reallized real quick that they're hot. Cresties are what people
Want. And their is so much potential for new color morphs that the market
Is endless if you do it right. Im sure that one day, we will have seen
Every possible morph of crestie, but right now there is still a lot to be
Seen. And as much as I love snakes, big, small, venomous, novenomous, no
Snake can compete with the cresties color and pattern diversity. How bout
You? How long have you been into cresties?
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 2:25:30 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
Sure. Here they are
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: re: new male
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:04:15 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>Can you do me a favor
>Send me those 2 pics that you had up on the ad
>I didn't get a chance to download them before you pulled the ad and I want
>to show a good friend what I am going to get-lol
>Thanks
>Sandy
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: re: new male
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:17:18 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>James thanks so very much for the pics
>I went and added some more money to my card and will be transferring it to
>your account in just a bit
>Thanks
>Sandy
>-------Original Message-------
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 4:44:55 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
I got your payment. Its been a very busy day for me, but you certainly made
It a lot easier. Its not often I make two sales to the same person. Im
Sure you'll be more then happy with your purchases. I will contact you on
Tuesday to discuss shipping. Hopefully the weather will be good. Its been
So nice up here for the passed few day but I guess we are going to get
Another taste of winter this week. You'll have to let me know. You guys
Out in the midwest always get our weather before we do. Anyway, Im calling
It a day. Talk to you on Tuesday.
Thanks,
James
PS- if you ever have a question about geckos or any other herps you might
Keep, please don't hesitate to ask. There isn't much I don't know about
Them.
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: re: new male
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:36:41 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>OK-I got the money transferred over to your account
>Whew-what a wild afternoon-lol
>Let me know what you think about shipping Tuesday for Wednesday if the
>weather is warm enough
>If not-I can wait-I want them to arrive here safely
>Thanks
> Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/4/2007 4:51:16 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: re: new male
That was weird. I got your email, but I could hardly see the letters.
Their was this all black screen with a couple of hot dogs on top and the
Letters were just a tiny bit lighter then the background so I could hardly
Read it. Anyway, I will talk to you on Tuesday and we'll see how the
Weather is then. It was nice talkin' to ya
Thanks,
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/5/2007 1:50:43 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
I really wouldn't know. I never used flex watt but if you start a thread on
Faunaclassifeds asking for help Im sure somebody who is familiar with using
Flexwatt will respond pretty quickly. They can be quite helpful.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:02:32 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>Hi James
>I would like to take you up on your kind offer of help with any herp
>questions that I might have
>
>I am putting together a rack for my leos and I need help with figuring out
>how to hook up the thermostat that I have to multiple pieces of flex watt
>I bought the tubs/sweater boxes used with the wired flexwatt already on
>the
>bottom of them and right now they all have individual plugs for each piece
>and I need to stay with this set-up for the moment if I can get it to work
>safely
>
>I have included the thermostat info in the attached file
>
>Is there a way to just plug a power strip into this thermostat and then
>plug
>in the various plugs from the flex watt into the power strip and have it
>maintain the desired heat/temps?
>
>Or could you please tell me how on earth I can get all of these pieces of
>flexwatt to be controlled by this thermostat so that I don't cook my
>beloved
>leos?
>I am at wits end with this at the moment and need to get this heat at the
>correct temp ASAP
>
>Thanks for any help
>Sandy
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:59:08 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>
>Hi James
>That's Ok-I got a brain fart and I called Big Apple Herps and they said to
>do exactly what I was going to do
>I hooked the power strip to the thermostat and everything seems to be
>working fine
>While I am writing this-
>Here is my 10 day forecast
>To me-it looks a lot better/warmer next week for shipping-say Tuesday for
>Wednesday
>Let me know what you think?
>
>Thanks and have a nice night
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/5/2007 4:42:47 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
Next Tuesday or Wednesday definitely looks good. Wednesday will probably be
Better because when I cross reference with my forcast it seems the overnight
Lows will be well above freezing for both your area and mine. As long as
You are ok waiting, I would rather wait until then.
James
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: James skinny
>Date: 3/5/2007 4:42:47 PM
>To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>
>Next Tuesday or Wednesday definitely looks good. Wednesday will probably
>be
>better because when I cross reference with my forcast it seems the
>overnight
>lows will be well above freezing for both your area and mine. As long as
>you are ok waiting, I would rather wait until then.
>
>James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:41:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>Hi James-If Wed for Thurs is good for you then it is fine with me
>I can't wait to see them-but I will-lol
>I want them to arrive safe and sound
>
>
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/6/2007 1:10:31 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
Im sorry Sandy if it seems my responses have been delayed. I have been
Doing a lot of ordering and had to address some issues with my shipments. I
Just got a bunch of poison dart frogs in and Im waiting for feeders to
Arrive. I hope that you got the flex watt thing worked out.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:35:52 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>Hi James
>Here is an updated forecast for me for this coming week
>Just thought that you might want to have this-let me know what day looks
>best for you
>The only bad day for me is Monday for Tuesday-any other day is fine
>Tuesday for Wed looks the warmest here
>Thanks
>Sandy
>
> > >Mon
> > >Mar 12 Partly Cloudy
> > > 50°/37° 10%
> > > 50°F
> > >
> > >Tue
> > >Mar 13 Partly Cloudy
> > > 52°/42° 20%
> > > 52°F
> > >
> > >Wed
> > >Mar 14 Partly Cloudy
> > > 54°/32° 10%
> > > 54°F
>Thursday looks cooler with a high of only 40 and a low of 27
From: James skinny
Date: 3/11/2007 4:24:47 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
Hey Sandy,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Well, when I cross reference
Your forcast with my local forcast, it seems that Wednesday is the day to
Ship. The night time temps in your area are going to be right at freezing
Though, which makes me a little nervous only because when the heat packs
That they will be packed in start to cool down, the external temp could be a
Problem. As it is right now, I think I will most likely be shipping on
Wednesday, but lets see how the forcast changes over the next few days. I
Have never seen a forcast that was correct five days in advance so I'll
Touch base with you sometime on Tuesday. Have a great day.
Thanks
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/11/2007 8:21:42 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
I wish that all my customers were as patient as you.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:47:59 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>
>Hi James
>Sounds good to me
>As always I have the geckos safety as my first priority
>Hopefully it will be warm enough if not- I can wait
>
>Have a great night
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/12/2007 7:07:31 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
Sorry, I just got your message this morning. Actually, weather wise today
Would probably have worked out but at this point I won't be able to get to
The post office in time for the cutoff. Im on my way out the door now and I
Won't be back until later on today.
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:40:26 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi-me again
>What does your weather look like for shipping tomorrow for Tuesday?
>We are going to be 62/45 tomorrow and 68/47 Tuesday
>Let me know and I can arrange to pick them up at the PO on Tuesday
>It looks like we will have to wait another week if they don't go out on
>tomorrow but I just thought that I would let you know that I can change my
>plans and be able to get them from the PO on Tuesday
>Otherwise I will just wait
>Let me know
>
>Sandy
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:03:14 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>
>Np James-It was an after thought-lol
>Tomorrows forecast here is
>
>70°/46°
>And Wed
>
>64°/35°
>
>So the low looks good on this end for overnight tomorrow
> let me know if it looks any warmer at night on your end
>Maybe I'm not as patient as I thought-lol
>Still-I have the geckos safety first
>So -I can wait-if need be
>
>Have a Great Day!!
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/13/2007 9:35:48 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Flexwatt and thermostat question for you
Sandy, If Im to ship today, I need your full name and phone number. I have
A very small window with which to this so please get that to me as soon as
Possible. I will have to leave work at 11:00 if Im to do this today,
Otherwise, it will have to wait 'til tomorrow.
Thanks,
Jesse
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Shipping cresties
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:39:39 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>
>
>HI Jesse-you should have had that info from the PayPal email saying that
>money had been transferred into your account- since I paid via payPal on
>both geckos
>I know that my name and address is listed but maybe not the phone number ??
>I will have to look into that for future shipping
>
>Anyway-please let me know if you were able to get them out OR if you want
>to
>use UPS - I can pay you the difference
>I would have np with using UPS and paypal-ing you the difference
>
>I know that UPS has a longer window for pick up and drop off
>I have to leave now and won't be back online until around 3 PM my time CST
>I doubt very much if you will be able to ship after today for this week
>We are supposed to get a cold front come in tomorrow night-unless the
>weather forecast has changed
>
>Hope to hear from you soon and
>
>Thanks so very much for your time
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/13/2007 1:12:30 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
No I wasn't able to get them out today and unfortunately I won't be able to
Leave here again until this evening so they'll have to wait til tomorrow.
The paypal receipt has your name and address but no phone number. One more
Day...
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:47:44 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>No problem
>I was just getting a little over eager to see these guys
>They will get here when they get here-lol
>Take care
>Sandy
>You have all the info that you need now-right??
From: James skinny
Date: 3/13/2007 5:30:48 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
No....I still need your phone number.
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:42:12 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi James
>Oops-sorry about that
>It's been a long day and I hurt like hell and I am going to take a nap
>And hope to feel a little better when I get back up
>I hope that you have a good night
>
>Take care
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/13/2007 6:41:06 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Thank you. Enjoy your nap....
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:35:14 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi James
>I don't know if you have tried to email me yet today but if you did and it
>was returned it was because my gmail account was full
>I emptied out some of the older e-mails (I am a pack rat-lol) and it should
>now be OK
>
>Just in case it should fill up again-I get a lot of spam-here is an
>alternate email for me that I also check often
>
>MistyBlueAngl2@aol.com
>
>I'm hoping that the weather will allow shipping today
>If not then I guess we will just see what next week brings
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/14/2007 1:48:55 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Sandy,
Hello, this is James' wife Jennifer. James' has asked me to contact all
Of his customers that were to have packages shipped today. He was a in a
Bit of an accident at work this morning and won't be able to ship anything
Today. He is ok, but he took a crack in the head and the hospital is
Keeping him overnight for observation. James sends his apologies and says
To tell you that he will contact you the when he is discharged, most likely
Sometime tomorrow afternoon.
Apologies,
Jennifer Skinny
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:02:03 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi Jennifer-I hope that James is doing better and feeling well soon
>I couldn't tell you if I was supposed to receive my geckos tomorrow because
>no one ever answered my email last night as to if there were going to be
>shipped today
>I am a bit confused here
>So far there have been 3 people that I have corresponded with about these
>geckos
>James-Jesse and now you Jennifer
> whomever I am now dealing with-let's plan on shipping my 2 Crested Geckos
>out next Wednesday for Thursday as that looks to be the best weather here
>for next week
>It is going to get cold and have a combination of rain and snow showers
>here
>tonight and just get worse through the weekend
>I am sooooooooooo tired of winter
>It's 70 degress today-too bad that they could not have gone out
>yesterday-the low last night here was a balmy 55 degrees
>
>Tell James to take care and I look for ward to seeing my 2 new Cresties
>next
>week
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/14/2007 5:00:49 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
I apologize for the confusion. Jesse used to work for us up until about a
Week and a half ago. I know that James had planned on shipping out several
Orders today and that yours was one of them. Today is partly my fault
Though. He tried to talk me through shipping out your order but I didn't
Feel comfortable doing it. There is so much involved in packaging and all
And I don't know what I would do if something went wrong. Its best to leave
That to James. He should be out tomorrow afternoon and Im sure he will
Contact you the moment he gets back. Have a good evening. Enjoy the
Spring like weather.
Jennifer
From: James skinny
Date: 3/16/2007 11:46:48 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Hello Sandy,
This is James again. Sorry about the delay. I was going to try and
Contact you yesterday when I got home, but they have me on some painkillers
And I had a little trouble forming sentences. I have nothing going on next
Week so you just pick a day when you want your geckos and I'll make sure
That you get them. I know that you said to ship them Wednesday for
Thursday, but if the weather forcast changes and its nice Monday and you
Want them Tuesday, just let me know and I will get them to you. We are in
The middle of a blizzard right now. I can't believe this. We had one nice
Day here in the 70's and I spent it in a hospital bed. I get out, and we're
Expecting 14-20" of snow. I can't wait til this is over. At any rate,
Thanks for your patience and have a nice day.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:07:24 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi James
>I hope that you are feeling better and don't have to take the pain pills as
>frequently
>I live on Vicodin-I take 4 to 5 extra strength per day for chronic pain
>And I am so used to it that most of the time I make sense-at least I think
>that I do-lol
>
>Anyway-If the forecast looks good at both ends for Monday/Tuesday-
>Go ahead and ship them and I will be able to pick them up at the PO
>Just put on the box or give the the directions to "hold at the PO in
>Watseka
>
>Make sure you specify Watseka as we are dealing with the US Government
>here-lol
>
>Actually I have used the USPS many times for sending and receiving lizards
>and I do agree that they are much more careful with live animals than any
>of
>the other carriers
>The only drawback where I live is that sometimes they don't get here until
>on the afternoon truck at 1 PM
> because I am not in a major city and the packages come from Kankakee
>However with warm enough weather -a 24 hr. Period or less should not be a
>problem with them being in transit
>I really look forward to seeing these guys
>They are going to be a welcome addition to my small but growing family of
>Cresteds
>
>Speaking of using other carriers
>I don't trust any other carrier besides the USPS and UPS
>
>My gf recently had a2 Cresties shipped to her in NYC and the weather was
>fine
>The package was late-which would not have a been a problem with 70 degree
>temps
>However-when see received the package it was obvious that it had been
>handled very roughly and the larger of the 2 Cresties was dead
>
>This of course was something that should never have happened
>Fedex of course is trying to get out of being responsible-oh they refunded
>the shipping-bit of course they want no responsibility
>They said that since the package was delivered on the day that it was
>supposed to arrive
>-they are not liable
>The issue of course is not the length of time that it took the package to
>get there
> but rather the mishandling of the package
>I honestly don't hold much hope for anyone to see a payment for the worth
>of
>the gecko
>But anyway
>That was my latest shipping horror story
>
>I feel comfortable with USPS as long as the weather is Ok for the heat
>packs to work
>
>Take care and feel better
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/16/2007 12:53:53 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Ok, well I'll contact you on Sunday evening or Monday morning and we'll talk
Then.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:20:17 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>If you need to talk to me on the phone-it has to be tonight before my bf is
>home for the weekend from work
>He doesn't know that I am getting these-my money-but he still would bitch
>and he is a pain in the ass when I am on the phone
>I will be home all night
>Right now I am running the vac so I can't hear the phone ring
>If you want to call me tonight-say after 4 PM my time
>CST
>I will be here
>***********
>If you didn't mean on the phone than emails will be np
>Thanks for understanding
>Sandy
>PS-I can call you if you don't get through when you try and call me
>Just shoot me an email
>I have been having problems with my phone lately
>I switched to the cable phone system and sometimes it is a pain in the ass
>Please send me your number and a good time to call you tonight if you have
>problems getting through to me
From: James skinny
Date: 3/19/2007 10:21:35 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Hey Sandy,
What does your weather look for this week? Here its supposed to remain
Cold overnight until Thursday, although evertime I check the latter part of
The week seems to be getting warmer and warmer. Our overnight low for
Thursday is 47. Just let me know when you get a chance.
Thanks,
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/19/2007 4:38:25 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Hey Sandy,
I looked up your weather for Wednesday, and it seems like you guys are
Looking pretty good for shipping then. Its still going to be a little
Chilly here, but your weather is what matters most. If you want, I can ship
On Wednesday. It will still be cold here but the heat packs will carry them
Through it. The majority of time in transit will be spent at your locale.
Its up to you. I think they will be fine if I ship them on Wednesday, but
If you are nervous or you just want to be sure that they are ok, I can wait
Until Thursday. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:19:14 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>
>James -if you are comfortable with them going out on Wednesday for Thursday
>delivery-then lets do it
>
>
>
>I can't wait to see them
>
>Have a good night
>And I'll be waiting for their tracking number Wednesday unless something
>changes drastically
>Thanks
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/19/2007 6:33:04 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
I know you can't and I feel your pain. As it is right now, I would wrather
Ship them on Thursday, but I have a feeling that Wednesday's low (here ) is
Going to be higher then what they are calling for right now. I will touch
Base with you again tomorrow evening, but I would say that they will most
Likely ship on Wednesday. Either way, you'll have your new charges this
Week.....
Thanks,
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/20/2007 8:23:19 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Sorry, no. I just checked the weather for Wednesday night and its going to
Wait until Thursday. Its going down to below freezing. Better wait until
Thursday. Here is a link to our local weather
http://wfmz.com/wx/. This
Way you can see how things are looking on both ends.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:10:08 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>James-I almost forgot to ask-have you ever shipped USPS on A Thursday for
>Friday and
>Did everything go ok?
>This Thursday looks good if you think that it's not too risky with being
>close to the weekend
>Just a thought..............
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/20/2007 3:17:58 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Ive shipped USPS on Thursday. I don't ship anything live on Fridays if I
Can help it. Its just not a good idea.
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/21/2007 9:38:49 AM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
Actually, I was going to say it was up to you. With the given temperatures
I can guarantee live arrival, but If it were me receiving them, I would
Probably choose to wait. It's still going to be wrather cold on both ends
And even a mild respiratory infection in a gecko can turn out to be quite
Serious later on. I am prepared to ship them tomorrow if you choose, but I
Would wait. Its up to you.
Oh, and they are doing great. They just filled there bellies with crickets.
I give my geckos their fill crickets three times a week and they always
Have a fresh cap ful of baby food (apricots and peaches are their favorite)
To lap up at their leisure.
Let me know.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:38:54 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>I agree about Friday's
>Let me know if you want to ship them Thursday or wait until next week
>I'll leave it up to you
>
>Thanks James
>Take care and have a good night
>BTW-how are they doing??
>
>Sandy
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Shipping tomorrow
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:49:25 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>
>
>Hi James
>I have been looking at this weeks weather and next weeks at both of our
>locations
>And to me it does not seem that there is any measurable difference in the
>low temps between
>Thursday night (tomorrow) and the lows that you are going to have next week
>
>Tomorrow's forecast for you is
>
>Thus: TEMPS: 59° / 46° WINDS:
>
>
>And for me
>
>Thurs:
>
>55/36
>
>Fri for me
>
>51/41
>
>I have had several geckos shipped to me in the past two weeks during
>varying
>degrees of temp and they have all arrived with the heat packs still warm
>and
>the geckos were/are just fine
>
>
>I think that it will be OK to go ahead and ship them tomorrow
>
>It really does not look as if there is going to be a perfect temp at both
>ends until June-lol
>
>Let me know if this is OK with you
>Thanks again for al of your time spent going back and forth on this
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/21/2007 12:27:34 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
That's fine with me. I will contact you tomorrow with a tracking number.
Thanks,
James
From: James skinny
Date: 3/21/2007 1:40:44 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Hey Sandy,
Again, its up to you, but I must say, I just got a chance to cross
Reference our weather forcasts and I think that there is enough of a
Difference between tomorrow evenings forecast and next weeks outlook to
Consider waiting a few more days. I just had to express that. Next week
The lows are only going down to the forty's at both ends of the route.
When your geckos arrive in Illinois at 2:00 am, Friday morning, its only
Going to be 36 degrees and that is where they are going to spend the
Majority of their transit time. Again, its entirely up to you.
Thanks,
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:15:00 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>James
>Ok-let's wait until next week then
>You did a much more through search of temps that I did so we can wait until
>next week or sometime in June-(jk)
>
>I'm just getting a bit frustrated with the weather if you can't tell
>
>Take care and thanks again
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/21/2007 3:12:14 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Its totally cool. I completely understand and I didn't mean to be a pain in
The ass. I know how you feel and I have things that I am excited about
Getting, especially this week, but with this wacky weather, its best to wait
It out. As of right now, next week looks really good on both ends and , as
Excited as you may be, it would be just silly to chance it just to get them
A few days sooner.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:50:50 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>James- I can't agree with you more about it being silly to rush sending
>them
>
>
>Oh-I forgot to mention that I am glad that you believe in feeding the
>Cresties crix-I also feed mine crickets along with the CGD and some fruit
>mixed into that and I kinda think that people that only feed the CGD are a
>bit off-lol
>
>The weather here is picture perfect today with a temp of 72 and a nice
>balmy
>breeze blowing
>I am out on the patio with my laptop and loving life in general after
>spending a few hours this morning cleaning out rabbit hutches
>They were a mess after the past few really cold winter months (who wants to
>do a deep clean out on rabbit hutches in zero degree weather??)and I am
>very
>pleased that they now all have nice clean bedding
>Here's a few pics of the bunnies taken last fall-and yes-they are pets-I
>don
>t keep snakes-lol
>Too lazy to go and take new pics today-actually my hands hurt too much and
>I
>m afraid that I might drop the camera
>
>Here's 3 of the 8 bunnies that I have and I finally got them all sorted out
>as to who is what sex
>I started out with one wild one that I rescued last summer and I let it go
>when it was full grown
>It was so small when I found it in the backyard that I had to bottle feed
>it
>formula for a few weeks
>I then got another and my bother in-law gave me yet another one and after I
>let the wild one free I had one male and one female
> And well-they did what comes naturally to rabbits-lol
>They are now in separate cages and so are the males and females that they
>produced last year
>No more bunny babies for me-lol
>Here is bunny butt-the wild bunny that is now living somewhere in the
>neighborhood
>
>Sorry for going on and on but my pain meds kicked in and I can talk/type a
>blue streak
>When they are doing what they are supposed to do-easing the pain to a
>tolerable level
>Take care
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/21/2007 4:37:32 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Im actually sorry to here that their are people that don't feed them
Crickets. I know that their are commericail diets out there but I have
Never known anybody to use them. I feel it is cruel to deny them the
Opportunity to hunt. Its something that they need to do. Besides, animals
That have their food handed to them, requiring no exertion on their part,
Tend to develop obescity and other health problems. Its the only exercise
That they get. Its a sin not to allow them to hunt. Anyway, Im glad you
Chose to wait. Its for the best. Im sure spring is going to be here soon.
It better be!... LOL
Thanks,
James
PS- if you do feed them baby food, always try to use stage 1 baby foods.
Its the closest thing to real fruit
From: James skinny
Date: 3/22/2007 4:30:29 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Its actually funny that you brought up the bunnies. I am actually building
An outdoor hutch (now that its supposed to stay warm for a while) for our
Bunnies. They are very cute!
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:18:46 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Hi James
>I hope that this finds you well
>I was wondering-
>How does the weather look for shipping them out tomorrow for Wednesday??
>
>I have one of my dogs at the vet today for x-rays and blood work so I have
>not even checked my weather here yet
>
>Sheba pulled up lame in one of her front legs and we are trying to find out
>why it's not getting any better so I am a bit scrambled-brain wise
>No sleep last night-worrying about her because they had to out her under
>anesthesia for x-rays
>
>Luckily the vet is going to split the $400 bill for today into two payments
>OUCH !
>But what can ya do-they have to be seen when they hurt or are sick
>My baby girl Sheba Sue
>\
>
>
>
>Please let me know when you are going to ship them
>Thanks
>
>Sandy
>
>PS-I just called the vet and Sheba is out of the anesthesia and the blood
>work and x-rays are done but the vet went to lunch so I have another hour
>to
>wait to go and find out what is wrong and bring her home
>
>ARRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!
From: James skinny
Date: 3/26/2007 1:06:47 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
The weather for tomorrow and Wednesday both look great (finally) but its
Going to have to be Wednesday. I have jury duty tomorrow
I never had
Jury duty before but my friend tells me to be well rested as he had a hard
Time staying awake.
Sorry to hear about your dog. Fortunately my wife is a Vet-tech so we kinda
Get a break, which is really fortunate considering the menagerie we have.
Did you give him any baby asperin or anything? Mudd (that's my dog) goes
With us hiking and camping all the time, he's like one of our kids, and
Sometimes he comes back with a little gimp but usually some baby aspirin or
Rimadyl will take care of the problem. Most Vets will tell you that OTC
Drugs are never ok to give to your dog, but that's mostly because they make a
Good deal of money from filling scripts. How old is your dog?
I attached a couple pictures of "Mudd". Hes an 11 year old Lab/Golden mix.
I wish I could show you some of his tricks but that's a little tough over the
Net.
James
>From: LadyGecko <beardiekeeper10@gmail.com>
>To: "James skinny" <skinniez@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:34:56 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
>
>Wednesday is fine
>
>Unfortunately my vets diagnosis was that she has Osteosarcoma
>She is 7 yrs old and a mixed breed and 67 lbs-she was 70 lbs 3 days ago
>but
>that could have been right after a meal etc-lol
>
>Sheba has never had a health problem in her life
>The vet said that all of her labs came back perfect and she is neg for
>heartworm-lyme disease
>
>The only other thing that he would not completely rule out was Gel
>Immunodiffusion but that she is not running a fever and does not have a
>cough which are symptomatic of this fungal (?) infection
>I am going to have him send in a serum sample to be tested anyway just on
>the off chance as the test is relatively inexpensive
>I just want to completely rule it out
>
>I am totally devastated-my dogs are my children and Sheba is my special
>little girl
>This is the very first link that I came across when I typed in Canine
>Osteosarcoma
>
>
http://www.dogcancer.net/osteo.HTML?...FR6AWAodwl6LUw
>
>Needless to say I have a lot of reading to do in the next few days and I
>would very much like to change her entire diet and get her on something
>that
>might give her a ghost of a chance
>
>My vet basically sent her home with pain meds and is waiting for us to make
>the decision when to put her down
>
>I just can't do that until I have explored every treatment
>possibility-whether it be radiation combined with holistic or whatever
>
>I don't have a lot of money to spend at The university of Illinois which is
>where she would be headed for any traditional cancer treatment but I will
>explore that avenue anyway
>I know that I grasping at straws but I can't just stand back and do nothing
>when she is other-wise healthy and the cancer does not seem to be
>progressed
>past her one leg
>
>Thanks so much for reading this
>I need to try and lay down before I fall down and I have way too many
>animals that depend on me to have that happen
>
>Hopefully your wife might have some much needed insight for me
>I appreciate any knowledge that she might have to offer
>
>Your dog is beautiful
>Thanks so very much for sharing his pics with me
>
>Sandy
From: James skinny
Date: 3/27/2007 4:11:41 PM
To:
beardiekeeper10@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Wow! I am so sorry to hear about Sheba. I gave my wife a call and she is
Looking on the AVA site to see what she can find out about it. Its really
Good that it doesn't appear to have progressed beyond the one limb. The
Only thing I can say right now, and Im sure you don't want to think about
It, but if it will save here life to lose that leg, and it is within your
Means, I wouldn't hesitate. I had a dog when I was younger that had one of
Her hind legs removed at the hip and she was, of all the dogs I have ever
Owned, or known for that matter, the fastest, liveliest and happiest. We
Nicknamed her "tri-pod".
Also, you said that your vet is waiting for you to decide when to put her
Down. If they are only offering you pain management and euthanasia as
Solutions, I would definitely get a second opinion. Jenn and I will be
Praying for her and I will let you know what we find out about any holistic
Or alternative treatments.
Sincerely,
James
And finally my most recent unanswered e-mails to him
-------Original Message-------
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/29/2007 12:31:58 AM
To: james skinny
Subject: RE: Shipping tomorrow
Hi James
I haven't received a shipping/tracking number from you yet
Maybe it got lost in cyberspace somewhere?
I am not in real good shape right now -I have had to take my zanax for anxiety-which I don't usually take on a daily basis -I just have too much going on right now to even think straight
I don't know if I have already mentioned it but along with my dog having cancer-my bf is having major health problems and I am a nervous wreck
So-if you have already sent out their tracking number-please resend it so that I can keep track of their progress tonight and call the PO in the am for them to hold the package for me to pick up
Thanks
Sandy
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/29/2007 5:05:52 AM
To: James skinny
Subject: Tracking number please
Hi James
I still have not received a tracking number for the 2 Cresties that you said that you would be shipping to me yesterday for delivery today
Please let me know if they are on their way as I can't find an email stating this from you anywhere in my mail folders but I understand that it could have been lost in cyberspace
I will be ready to pick them up at the Watseka PO today
Thanks for your time
Sandy
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/29/2007 9:32:23 AM
To: James skinny
Subject: RE: Shipping cresties
James-I just checked your weather and it looks like to has been very cold there at night
Sorry for my impatience but I had the impression that it was going to be warmer than it is
Too bad-the weather is not below the mid 40's here at night
I guess that we will just have to wait some more to ship them
I hope that things are going well for you
Life sucks here
Sandy
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/29/2007 9:24:00 PM
To: James skinny
Subject: RE: Shipping Cresties
Dear James or Jennifer
Could one of you please respond to my e-mails and let me know why neither one of you has been in touch with me about the 2 Cresties and why they were not shipped on Wednesday for delivery today as promised?
Thanks for your time
Sandy
From: LadyGecko
Date: 3/30/2007 1:23:01 PM
To:
skinniez@hotmail.com
Subject: James -Jesse-or Jennifer
I guess that something must have come up because I have not heard anything from anyone on your end since Tuesday
Could one of you please at least do me the favor of letting me know just what is going on and when you will be able to ship these 2 Cresties??
Sincerely
Sandy
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