Well I see you are all in contact now....Thanks for forwarding it to me Kim. spam_I hope you do not mind...but Here they are.
E-mail 1
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Babyslither@aol.com
From:
Pdog79764@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:19:57 EDT
Subj:
Hello,
spam_ spam_ Well first of all I don't know who your friends are so I can't say nothin about whatever they are saying, but those were not sick when they got shipped to you. spam_What happened to them after they left my house I could not say because I was not there. spam_And yes they can get an upper respiratory over night from being too cold just like your kids go to bed and get up next day with stopped up nose. spam_If she would of had it already it would of already been in her nose and her blowing snot when you removed her from box. spam_If they
are as covered in mites as you are saying they are, why would we have not seen anything on our snakes when they soak in the bath tub and when they are ready to be put up they are dried on white towels. spam_(this was a tip from the
snake person we know) And yes they can get that stressed from shipping. spam_Shipping has killed quite a few animals not just mine other peoples too, they just do not adapt well to change and being bounced around. spam_Ask someone besides your friends who do shipping and they will tell you that is part of it. spam_ And you never know which animal it will be. spam_You keep say now that both are sick??? spam_I just don't think so. spam_You said the one was fine and we told you how to get the other well without money outa pocket for a vet. spam_I know this works because we have gotten in snakes that got way too cold and got them well in 2 or 3 days doing exactly what we told you to do. spam_Only difference was noone told me how to look in mouth to see if it had snot before it advanced to nostrils. spam_Mine were already in nostrils and the misting and higher heat got it well......... no vet involved. spam_So yours is not as advance as my case so should be able to clear it up easier than I did.
spam_As for the mite thing, spam_I might could believe a few but the way you are saying they had them there is just now way since the bigger one is handled, and nobody has gotten a bug on them? spam_You said they would come off on you if your holding them. spam_Next thing would be how would a snake having mites mean it is unhealthy???? Since they are covered in them in the wild??? spam_Yes we keep them off of our animals because we don't want the diseases they carry around us or the bugs in our house but that is not poor health. spam_They are
also both eatin they were fed about 9 to 12 days before shipping. spam_And the reason for that is you don't want to ship when they just ate for chance they will regurge in box. spam_I don't know if you have seen that before or not but that is the nastiest smelling crap I can say I have ever dealt with. spam_Someone sent us a freshly fed snake. spam_And we thought it was dead before we even opened the box. spam_As far as not answering your other email. I could not get on my computer till now because we had 3 kids playing on them since 9:00 this mornin. spam_Now as for the money part of it......you can call someone to do a rescue or whatever on the one if thats what you feel you need to do with it. spam_You have not said a word about the other being sick so we will take care of the one. spam_Now ball back to your court, spam_you can either get the other female or I will send back half the money you paid for the other 2. spam_As far as shipping charges go even if you order something out of a catalog or whatever they don't refund shipping. spam_ And I would like to have an explanation as to
why you thought you needed to file a complaint before you had even givin me a chance to answer any questions. spam_I'm sorry you think things turned out the way they have because we purposely sent you sick animals but that is just not
the truth no matter what you think. spam_thx
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Babyslither@aol.com
From:
Pdog79764@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:42:18 EDT
Subj:
What I think is going on is you don't believe me about the upper respority thing and are trying to send snakes back because you are jumpy. spam_I really think yes the one you say is sick ok spam_I told you do with it whatever you feel you need to do. spam_And if she got that stressed out from one shipping you are trying to double up on her and sign her death warrant. spam_Period. spam_O.K. you don't want any more snakes, I said send back half the money you paid. That covers the one. spam_You never said anything until today about they, it was always the lighter one or littler one. spam_So I don't think the other is sick
you are just afraid its gonna get sick???? What??? So knowing that you also have other snakes, why would I let you send them back knowing maybe they have been exposed to something on your end???? spam_I do not even take puppies or baby birds back if they have other animals that did
not come from me. spam_That was a lesson in its self. spam_It sounds like to me that someone is just not wanting to put forth an effort to get something well. spam_Would rather just not deal with it at all. spam_So like I said call a rescue person, friend, neighbor whatever....... who wants to put forth the effort to help her out and save her before you let her get beyond that. spam_And I will send you the money back you paid for her but not the other.
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Babyslither@aol.com
From:
Pdog79764@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:52:55 EDT
Subj:
Well I just don't see how that could be since they did eat and poop right before they were shipped. spam_And the one you say is so sick shed 2 days before it got shipped. spam_perfectly too I might add. spam_Ask a snake person you know if they shed one whole peice if they aren't healthy. spam_And as for proof, unless
it was someone I knew and know they are not full of hockey I'm not going to take their word for nothin. spam_And no not even a vet because I have had way more of them full of bs than not. spam_You can ask 10 people 1 question and every single one of them will give you a different answer and probably 3 of them will out right lie while one exaggerates.
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I see discrepancies here
---In e-mail one (1) we see the following
If they are as covered in mites as you are saying they are, why would we have not seen anything on our snakes when they soak in the bath tub and when they are ready to be put up they are dried on white towels.
---then they say
"As for the mite thing, spam_I might could believe a few but"
---as you can see...first there is no way they have mites....Then Maybe a few
"Next thing would be how would a snake having mites mean it is unhealthy"
---I guess they do not know that mites are one vector for disease transfer.
---In e-mail number one they say
"They are also both eatin they were fed about 9 to 12 days before shipping."
---In e-mail number three they say
Well I just don't see how that could be since they did eat and poop right before they were shipped
Ask a snake person you know if they shed one whole peice if they aren't healthy.
---I'll answer that from experience...YES THEY CAN !!
So knowing that you also have other snakes, why would I let you send them back knowing maybe they have been exposed to something on your end???
---Sounds like they are very very sure they do not want those "unhealthy" snakes back....WHY?!?!?
Didnt want to ship them back because if they are as sick as you say they are.they would only be worse or dead from being shipped again
--- gee according to his letter he did not want them back because it would expose all his other animals.
I guess he did not know I have all the e-mails !!!
Kim as you can see.
It is all to suspicious.
They do not want those animals back !! spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_Why?
They will do anything necessary not to get those animals back !! spam_ spam_ spam_ Why?
They would rather have those animals go to a rescue than get them back !! spam_ spam_ spam_ spam_ Why?
You paid for healthy snakes.
You paid for snakes with no mites.
And you did not get what you paid for.
So they will refund only PART of your money.
BUYER BEWARE!!!!!
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