MANDY PARRISH/FRYE...

UGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!  HIT THE WRONG KEYS.

I will continue.

Plus, Mandy your husband doesn't know what mites are?  You said he packed her.  Now IF ANYTHING YOUR HUSBAND SAW THE MITES WHEN PACKED HER UP FOR SHIPPING.  This leads me to a couple of questions.

Do you communicate with your husband?
Why wouldn't he have told you so you could warn me?
Is he an ethical person?
Why would he allow an animal out of the facility if it had mites?
Why do you continually make excuses saying that you husband did packed the boa, etc.

If you are selling and repersenting the animal it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.  I don't want to hear that your husband packed her up, etc.  I'm WASN'T dealing with him I WAS DEALING WITH YOU.  I could say, oh I didn't take pictures because my wife got bit, etc. (which I did) but I also stated that I could have taken pictures but I didn't because I was FULL OF ANGER and not thinking about it or sanely at the time.  I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for my own actions and representations of ME whereever I go or when I communicate with others about selling, buying, etc.

Joshua Ingram
ingramj@nyc.rr.com

Ok Mandy after the post from you and the one from Josh .. this  is my opinion please dont take it wrong , but  just for what it is worth ok .
Heres the deal i had a 14 retic last year  i was selling due to i was getting out of large burms and  retics and focusing on JUST boas now  i did interact with ALL my snakes on a dailey basis .  For the retic i found a buyer inPA  we talked for a week on the deal ,  when i had her posted for sale she was in good health  due to a feeding error on my part ( roosters ) not sure if thats how she got them but she ended up with mites , now on a dark snake i will say mites can be very hard to see  and can sometimes go unseen  due to there size ( ity bity ) well after we had agreed on the deal she had eatin and i told the buyer i would like to wait till sh had time to digest food . , which  he agreed that was best . so after the time  he had already mailed off his M/O i noticed a mite on her  while cleaning her cage i then IMMEADATELY contacted him and told him i had found them on her and that if he wanted to i would gladley refund his $  or not cash it untill i was sure the problem was corrected. Now keep in mind this was a 14 footer. he said he still wanted the snake  but would wait till i had cleared the problem up . so i tucked his M/O in my desk and sat on it . i then went through the process of ridding mites VIA mineral oil , i know some ppl say its bad but i have always had 100% success using it with no problems other then ( sometimes the next shed being dry/ flakey )i xplained the procedure to the buyer and what to expect on the following shed cycle . he agrred it was fine with him . so i did my treatment and it took 3-4 days and the mites were falling off like ripe apples on a tree.  Ithen contacted him and told him to the best i could tell i had fixed the problems w/ mites. and would be shipping on a agreed date ( this was in Nov of 01) i ythen purchased 3 40 hr heat packs and built a nice wooden box that i KNEW there would be lil or no chance of any damage to the snake during shipment she was packed in a large enough box inside the wooden crate i built and bagged properly , heat packes placed  in news paper  and then foam packed around her in the inner box to keep from being bounced and knocked around . Then i drilled 1" holes on 4 sides  2 on each side  then took of to the shippers place  this whole procedure ended up costing me a xtra 25$ due to the wooden crate i built to ship her in ( i could have easily done it in dbl boxes but i choose this to ensure as safe as trip as possible) for his snake . so i guess in a long about way  what im getting to is if this was your husbands snake regardless of that you were the one that made the deal right? if your husband held him and your kid did also it should have been your responsibility to ensure what you portrayed was what the buyer/ trader got .  ven in dark snakes  with mites allthough you may not see them by watching them i have ALLWAYS been able to see them or find one on me when holding  them . so whoever did the packing of the snake should have in some way noticed them  cause its my exoerience that esp if you are packing a snake in a bag ( and we know how much they like theat ...NOT AT ALL )someone should have seen this  esp if Josh claims if he would have taken a picture  they would have been very obvious  in the water to see . Iguess  the moral here is  always check ... dbl check ... and then check again to make sure what you tll someone is what they get . again im not bashing / or saying bad things just simply stating what i and several other do in there dealings when portraying our animals for sale  is make sure they get what they think there gettin even if it means skipping out on a deal due to the fact a un expected circumstances arises , im sure someone would rather  come here and say " i had a deal with so & so  but they found out this was wrong and gave me the opportunity to make my choice in accepting as is or  me letting them make  th problem right before the sale and then i got what i wanted in good shape "  ok im stepping down now .
hava good one  and hope that in the future  some of this will be of use to you .

You know I gotta add my 0.02 when I see something that does not add up

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Okay....you did not have time for one (1) snake....So you decided to trade her in for three (3) more? spam_ spam_ okay I just got confused....either that or I stumbled onto a really weak and made up excuse. (otherwise known as a little white lie)

You traded with Josh. spam_You did not adopt her out to him.
Traded -- got snakes in exchange....therefore Josh can do with her as he pleases.

Ok where to start? I will try and put quotes so you will known who and what I am talking about..

(quote Josh..."You state that you offered to make it right. &nbsp;I don't remember this")
I sent this as part of an email that I sent you and never got a response from. When you told me later that you never got that email I sent a short version of it. I believe that is the one you posted in your book of emails....I have also since stated it here I believe and at MOI.

(quote Josh..."The fact of the matter is that ALL I CAN SEE IS THAT YOU STATE THAT SENT ME EMAILS THAT NEVER WENT THROUGH. &nbsp;PRETTY DARN CONVENIANT!!!!")
If you will remember and look back at your emails some of these email problems were before any snakes were ever sent. Why would I be claiming to send emails that I did not really send when no snakes had even been sent yet? What would that gain me?

(quote Josh...."Plus, Mandy your husband doesn't know what mites are?")
Yes he does know that snakes can have mites, but no, he has never seen them so he would have no idea what he was looking at. I have seen them on snakes at work at the vets office, but we have never had them on our snakes before.

(quote Josh....AND MY ANSWERS...
Do you communicate with your husband? Yes of course!
Why wouldn't he have told you so you could warn me? He never said anything about any problems with her. Even when I asked him about it after receiving your email. He said he never noticed anything...
Is he an ethical person? &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???
Why would he allow an animal out of the facility if it had mites? First it is our home not a facility. And he would also not have sent her if he had known.
Why do you continually make excuses saying that you husband did packed the boa, etc...Because everyone seems to think that I should have magically known there was a problem with her when I had not even looked at her closer than from across the room in over two weeks. I am just being clear that I had no contact with her.

(quote Josh..."If you are selling and repersenting the animal it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY")
And I have taken that responsibility! I have done everything I know to work with this. I have told you nothing but the honest truth since you first told me you had problems with her. I have answered every question. Done everything I know to do. I have not received one direct contact from you other than behind my back posts about me on forums. Which I might add I would have never known was here except someone pointed them out to me. What more would you like me to do?
My husband and I decided for the best interest of this snake to find a home for her because my husband (to which the snake belonged) was not going to have time to spend with her due to his new job and other reasons. I had no real interest in the snake..he talked me into taking her in the first place. So he told me to look for her a good home. Since I am the one that works with rescue groups and rescue in general online, I am the one that posted it and dealt with it. You knew it was his snake, the reason we were finding her a new home...etc I stated all of this to you in email before we ever agreed to trade. Correct?

(quote HallsHerps...."it should have been your responsibility to ensure what you portrayed was what the buyer/ trader got")
I do see this now. I never thought about the chance of her popping up with mites as none of our snakes have ever had a problem. I have been checking them all now since this and still none of my others have them.
So I guess lesson learned...expect the unexpected!

I also just wanted to say thank you for a calm, direct post on this matter. It seems there are a few sane people around.

(quote HallsHerps..."hope that in the future &nbsp;some of this will be of use to you")
You can say that for sure!

(quote Ritchie..."Okay....you did not have time for one (1) snake....So you decided to trade her in for three (3) more?")
My husband got a new job...he did not have time for her anymore due to a new schedule. I was not really interested in keeping her myself. As I have stated elsewhere I am more into pythons and col. I have my burm and did not really want two large snakes. I have plenty of time for my snakes..I am home all day with them (when I am not with my dad) I just don't really like boas and felt that she would do better with someone that really needed/wanted her. No excuses..no lies...just ...fact...??

(quote Ritchie..."You traded with Josh. &nbsp;You did not adopt her out to him.
Traded -- got snakes in exchange....therefore Josh can do with her as he pleases.")
And I have never stated otherwise. I did email him when I saw he had posted her again. I knew how excited he had been to get her. As you can read yourself in the emails..I was puzzled/a bit shocked to see her posted so soon. That is why I emailed him asking about it. I was hoping that it was not going to turn out that he had just gotten her from me to try to make money from her or something. I don't feel that is the case now but as I know you must be able to imagine I was a bit upset when I first saw the post.


Ok I think that covers everything...sorry everyone for the long post..I just wanted to get to everyones questions and statements...

good point richie!
how much time does one snake take out of the day..or week even..geesh..hardly like a dog or cat that needs daily handling etc. i wonder what happened to the corns that she was going to be getting( the so called reason i could not get a price or much info was she had a trade she accepted for some corns i was told..) hardly a rubber boa etc that josh traded her for. also that pic of the wifes finger..my god..some tame snake. i have more than 23 boas here and never ever did i have a bite like that from any of them including the ones that got shipped in..only an occasional hiss after opening the bag.
me thinks we have a story teller on our hands..and a bad one at that. i hate to sound like a meanie here but like i said in my last post that person was just too strange about the whole thing and i feel for the buyer and his current dilemma ..and his wife..damm..who needs that kind of crap in their life.

one more thing..you are sitting there all day..and you dont take time to notice what your husbands snake is doing?
give me a break..dont have kids..because if your kids have pets you will be the one that takes care of them most of the time...
i find that excuse worse than pathetic..
you sit on your ass all day and there is sitting an animal that you dont bother to check on once in a while.
mites to that degree dont happen overnight.
they were there for a while..and your sitting and sitting and never filling a water bowl..one way to see them..or noticing the snake soaking endlessly..which im sure it was doing.
etc etc.
i have never once posted these kind of comments about anyone or anything but after reading this particular post and dealing with you myself and worst yet thinking of the whole situation after hearing the lamest excuses from a person that calls themself a rescue..
well all i can say is...
wake up girl..

QUOTES:
1. "I had considered breeding her myself ....."
2. "I got her from a friend locally and we did not get into specifics about where he got her."
3. "I have not had one bit of trouble with her eating"
4. "I have no idea on her weight"
5. "I truthfully just have not had reason to weigh her"
6. "As far as being proven?? at her size she could be but not by me or my friend that I got her from."

Everything is I......Who does it belong to again?


Emails regarding the possible trade started on Feb 15
You said you traded her because your husband got a new job and did not have time for her.
On March 5 you wrote this
" We are going to be gone today...celebrating..husband got the new job he was hoping to get"

So I guess someone has ESP and knew three weeks ahead of time that he will get the job.......If he knew three weeks ahead of time....why didn't you celebrate as early as the 15th of february. spam_How come nothing was mentioned about the job until 22 days later?


Quote:"with her when I had not even looked at her closer than from across the room in over two weeks"
March 3
"I am going to try the boa again today..see if she is interested..won't push her though since she will be traveling "
Boa was shipped March 5 spam_That is two days before she was shipped NOT two weeks
Also a delivery of the boa was attempted by Mandy sometime between feb 26 - feb 28 (according to the e-mails).
So your seeing her only across the room for two weeks is another lie.


Quote: "You knew it was his snake, the reason we were finding her a new home...etc I stated all of this to you in email before we ever agreed to trade. Correct?"
nope.........as I said before....your husbands job did not get mentioned until the snakes were shipped spam_MARCH 5.



can't wait to see the answers for this one.

If I was Many's husband I'd leave her A$$. He can't keep his snake but she can have what ever she wants. He's the only one making money and you sit at home and can't throw &nbsp;some food in the cage. I believe your stories are a bunch of BS. If you trade a snake you have no say what is done with it. He can sell it when ever he wants or hell make a pair of boots if he want because it's his snake. If you were that worried about the snake then why couldn't you find the time to care fo it. I know my wife hates my snakes and if she was to get rid of one she would care less because she hates them. Get your poop in a group and take notes so you can keep this pile of S#!t from getting to big.

Frank, LOL!!!

Ritchie... Great job yet again! Can I have you as my record keeper? <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

ok Rachel, you can have him as your record keeper, but I get him for my bodyguard!!! &nbsp;This ok with you, Ritchie?
Dana <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>