whats a good snake

Originally Posted by Westcoastchondros

Bluelips, where are you located?

I'm located near Dallas, Texas

Originally Posted by xXBlueLipsXx

yeaa see this confuses me because people say GTB and GTP are mean and are agressesive yet I see people handling adult and babie of those species and there laid back ...it confuses me really

I think that the key here is that it is POSSIBLE to handle these snakes but that they are not the ones that tolerate it the best.

If you want a snake that you can handle regularly (and I certainly do, to me it's the best part of snake ownership, but it isn't important to everyone) you want one that will not be stressed by being made to tolerate something it is not in its nature to want.

Originally Posted by xXBlueLipsXx

ah ok ^^ hmm how big to bloods get? and arent emeralds a little less aggressive then ATB's?

Originally Posted by xXBlueLipsXx

ah ok ^^ hmm how big to bloods get? and arent emeralds a little less aggressive then ATB's?

Average is about 6ft. Real nice medium size snake. This is a young Borneo blood I had in the classifieds for awhile...still debating on whether or not to re list him.

Originally Posted by Helenthereef

I think that the key here is that it is POSSIBLE to handle these snakes but that they are not the ones that tolerate it the best.

If you want a snake that you can handle regularly (and I certainly do, to me it's the best part of snake ownership, but it isn't important to everyone) you want one that will not be stressed by being made to tolerate something it is not in its nature to want.

I respect opinions like this but realistically things do not add up. In most cases, the snake has been raised in a temperature controlled "box" with dead prey and has been given the opportunity to thrive regardless of phenotype, sex, initial willingness, etc... . The call to nature is already gone. I have a little bit of everything and after seriously thinking about the behavior of my own animals, many of my arboreals "enjoy/utilize to their advantage/tolerate/do not care" about handling better than many of my balls. Chondros/emeralds are naturally alert snakes and once out of the cage will spend a few seconds doing quick tongue flicks before slowing down and casually gliding off their branch, performing slow lengthy tongue flicks. The longer ones indicate no sense of urgency or anticipation of harm, obviously they do not imply "happiness" either. Handling any snake is best kept under 30 minutes and in peace. Do not expect to take your chondro to a frat party, if you give him a broom handle though, he may drive you and pick you up...maybe.

Originally Posted by Helenthereef

I think that the key here is that it is POSSIBLE to handle these snakes but that they are not the ones that tolerate it the best.

If you want a snake that you can handle regularly (and I certainly do, to me it's the best part of snake ownership, but it isn't important to everyone) you want one that will not be stressed by being made to tolerate something it is not in its nature to want.

Yeaa I really do want to be able to handle it for a bit honestly that is the best part of owning a snake in my opinion

Originally Posted by EmeraldBoid

I respect opinions like this but realistically things do not add up. In most cases, the snake has been raised in a temperature controlled "box" with dead prey and has been given the opportunity to thrive regardless of phenotype, sex, initial willingness, etc... . The call to nature is already gone. I have a little bit of everything and after seriously thinking about the behavior of my own animals, many of my arboreals "enjoy/utilize to their advantage/tolerate/do not care" about handling better than many of my balls. Chondros/emeralds are naturally alert snakes and once out of the cage will spend a few seconds doing quick tongue flicks before slowing down and casually gliding off their branch, performing slow lengthy tongue flicks. The longer ones indicate no sense of urgency or anticipation of harm, obviously they do not imply "happiness" either. Handling any snake is best kept under 30 minutes and in peace. Do not expect to take your chondro to a frat party, if you give him a broom handle though, he may drive you and pick you up...maybe.

lol I dont do frat partys and if I did my snake would never go I dont want it to be stressed really, and thats cool always thought it was reverse btw the arborels and boas o.o

thats a nice looking blood and a good length really

Originally Posted by xXBlueLipsXx

thats a nice looking blood and a good length really

Yeah, the borneos usually stay a little smaller, a little over 5 ft average. They are very thick though.

Something smaller, pretty, and somewhat uncommon would be a rosy boa but you want something bigger

Originally Posted by SamBob

Something smaller, pretty, and somewhat uncommon would be a rosy boa but you want something bigger

yeaa I do at least 7.5 at some point in time unless there exotic like GTP or GTB or some cool color (takes a lot of color to impress me or unusual markings lol)