Donald Rollins and Jesse Wisecup

whatever forget i posted. obviously you all do think two wrongs make it right. though ive never done anyone wrong. bye.

You dealt with known scumbags and got burnt. Are you really that surprised?

Hopefully this thread will help others who might be considering it steer clear of them, though.

Originally Posted by MagickalMorphs

You dealt with known scumbags and got burnt. Are you really that surprised?

Hopefully this thread will help others who might be considering it steer clear of them, though.

thats the exact reason that i posted and like i said im not looking for sympathy i know i dealt with scum and thought the risk was worth the reward but unfortunately it looks like i lost this time. I wasn't looking for sarcasm or scorn. Noone is perfect and im sure all of you have things you regret. let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

Originally Posted by Docmurder

i know i dealt with scum and thought the risk was worth the reward but unfortunately it looks like i lost this time.

And this folks....is why I polled for a cooking forum.

Originally Posted by Docmurder

i may have gotten screwed more than i even expected?

Its almost like renting a $20.00 whore, then finding out you have aids.....some things are very predictable.
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jesse wisecup is a good kid that needs some direction. He needs a good mentor. I have talk with him via email and at reptile shows. He is a young herper with great enthusiasm. He is just hanging out with bad guys. He needs to work under someone with ethics. I feel we need to set up some type of program for young people on fauna. They are learning from shit shows and bad dealers. They need to learn from someone that has people skills and breeding knowlege.

alex

Originally Posted by Ed Clark

Its almost like renting a $20.00 whore, then finding out you have aids.....some things are very predictable.
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Are you suggesting to him that he was in the wrong part of New Jersey, with the wrong amount of money, with the wrong freckled up guy?

Helluva way to break the bad news to the guy.

Originally Posted by alex bleas

jesse wisecup is a good kid that needs some direction. He needs a good mentor. I have talk with him via email and at reptile shows. He is a young herper with great enthusiasm. He is just hanging out with bad guys. He needs to work under someone with ethics. I feel we need to set up some type of program for young people on fauna. They are learning from shit shows and bad dealers. They need to learn from someone that has people skills and breeding knowlege.

alex

I like your post - minus the profanity. Can you convince Jesse to ask for this kind of assistance here? There are so many good folks here that I think would truly enjoy turning this around for him and seeing him on a path to success. But certainly it needs to start with him. He needs to step forward and ask of this for himself. Half the battle is admitting you have some problems and need and want to change. Its ownership. If he can muster up the strength to do his part...I don't think many in a position to help him would refuse him the chance.

For whatever its worth, I'm all in for helping him, but he has to want it.

Someone once told me a quote that went something like....."The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who is of absolutely no use to him". I think if we all apply that across the board, while also considering the circumstances of how each has come to suck so bad that no one wants anything to do with them, we may be able to save more than just a few.

Originally Posted by critical bill

Can you convince Jesse to ask for this kind of assistance here?

Jesse has been banned, so that is not an option.

If there are people interested in helping him, I'm sure that connections can be made easily enough that offers or requests would be received.

Originally Posted by hhmoore

Jesse has been banned, so that is not an option.

If there are people interested in helping him, I'm sure that connections can be made easily enough that offers or requests would be received.

Understood, and thank you for the info. I wasn't aware he was banned.