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Old 10-21-2006, 12:54 AM   #61
Dennis Hultman

Ah your full of it. I saw it when it changed

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jaxom1957 69.225.25.104
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Dennis Hultman
What you looking for?
 
Old 10-21-2006, 12:55 AM   #62
Bill & Amy
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Originally Posted by jaxom1957
Your assumptions are that the moderator and Casey are both honest. I have no reason to believe they are not, but also no personal knowledge that they are. The IP address is not available to the public for verification, nor is the email sent to Casey. Several users have now posted, all insisting that I accept YOUR LEVEL OF PROOF as sufficient. ONE person has posted having direct contact with the seller, and, as far as I can tell from that post, was given correct information.

What I protest is the habit of users in this forum of making claims against individuals with whom they have not had direct dealings, based upon what another user claimed happened. If the persons having direct dealings want to post what happened to them, I am quite willing to read what they have to say. What I am not willing to do is accept second-hand hearsay as evidence. So, I ask again: will any user having direct dealings with Kevin Orbanus please post what happened, positive or negative. Not dealings with "Nick", not what was related by another user, but direct dealings with Kevin Orbanus.
That is your opinion, we are entitled to ours. I don't feel the need to prove anything else to you. You don't have any reason to question the honesty of the moderator or Casey, but yet you do. If have several reasons to question the honesty of Nick/Kevin, but don't. If this guy wasn't guilty, don't you think he would be here defending HIMSELF!!!
 
Old 10-21-2006, 12:57 AM   #63
jaxom1957
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Originally Posted by Dennis Hultman

Ah your full of it. I saw it when it changed

What you looking for?
And the point being that an IP address changes, as mine just did and does several times a day. Citing an IP address does not prove that they are the same person. Did I suddenly become someone else when mine changed?
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:04 AM   #64
jaxom1957
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
That is your opinion, we are entitled to ours. I don't feel the need to prove anything else to you. You don't have any reason to question the honesty of the moderator or Casey, but yet you do.
Please cite any post from me that claims they are not honest.
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If have several reasons to question the honesty of Nick/Kevin, but don't. If this guy wasn't guilty, don't you think he would be here defending HIMSELF!!!
Possibly for the same reason he stopped posting in the original thread. Once this group has labeled a person, it matters very little what the facts are. As I've already said, you make a convincing case against Nick. Your claims against Kevin are less so, so I reserve judgement until I here more first-hand experiences from users dealing with Kevin Orbanus.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:10 AM   #65
Bill & Amy
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Originally Posted by jaxom1957
Your assumptions are that the moderator and Casey are both honest.

What I am not willing to do is accept second-hand hearsay as evidence.
Your post above questions their honesty.

This isn't a court of law, so get over it.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:13 AM   #66
Bill & Amy
Just in case you missed it his real name isn't even Kevin it's Joseph.

Joseph C Orbanus
24 Ivy Hall Ln
Sicklerville, NJ 08081-1735
(856) 262-4463

So STFU!!!
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:21 AM   #67
jaxom1957
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
Your post above questions their honesty.
Oh, I do so love being quoted out of context! Let's post it in context, shall we?
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Originally Posted by jaxom1957
Your assumptions are that the moderator and Casey are both honest. I have no reason to believe they are not, but also no personal knowledge that they are.
Hmmm.... I never said they are dishonest, but I noted that I have nothing on which to base an opinion about their honesty. Have you any further disinformation to dispense?
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
This isn't a court of law, so get over it.
I would never mistake this kangaroo court for any court of law. You've already tried and convicted too many people on too little evidence for me to make that mistake.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:28 AM   #68
jaxom1957
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
Just in case you missed it his real name isn't even Kevin it's Joseph.

Joseph C Orbanus
24 Ivy Hall Ln
Sicklerville, NJ 08081-1735
(856) 262-4463

So STFU!!!
My brothers' names are Joseph, Dale and Thomas. For many years, we rented a house together and shared a phone number. Again, your "proof" doesn't measure up, so ESAD.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:28 AM   #69
Bill & Amy
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Originally Posted by jaxom1957
Oh, I do so love being quoted out of context! Let's post it in context, shall we?Hmmm.... I never said they are dishonest, but I noted that I have nothing on which to base an opinion about their honesty. Have you any further disinformation to dispense?
I would never mistake this kangaroo court for any court of law. You've already tried and convicted too many people on too little evidence for me to make that mistake.
I said you questioned their honesty, read that statement, it is exactly what is says.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 01:31 AM   #70
Bill & Amy
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Originally Posted by jaxom1957
My brothers' names are Joseph, Dale and Thomas. For many years, we rented a house together and shared a phone number. Again, your "proof" doesn't measure up, so ESAD.
Oh now he lives with his brother, let me guess he has another one named Nick. Have fun convincing yourself of your "conspiracy theory", you are a waste of time.
 

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