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Old 10-24-2019, 11:54 AM   #121
bcr229
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Incident was 5 years ago.
This one was last year.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndok/pr...ed-box-turtles


Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Northern District of Oklahoma

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wednesday, October 23, 2019

New Jersey Man Pleads Guilty to Smuggling Over 1,000 Illegally Collected Box Turtles from Oklahoma

TULSA, Okla. – A New Jersey man pleaded guilty Wednesday in federal court to conspiring with others to purchase, transport and sell more than 1,000 box turtles that were unlawfully collected from the state of Oklahoma, announced U.S. Attorney Trent Shores.

From May 1, 2017 to May 31, 2018, William T. Gangemi, 26, of Freehold, New Jersey, knowingly facilitated the purchase and transport of unlawfully collected three-toed and western (ornate) box turtles from Oklahoma to New Jersey in order to sell them for profit. Gangemi was part of a syndicate of wildlife smugglers where protected turtles were exchanged back and forth between the United States and China.

By smuggling the turtles, Gangemi violated the Lacey Act, a federal law which makes it a felony to engage in the sale or purchase of protected wildlife with a market value in excess of $350 knowing that the wildlife was taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of laws or regulations of any state. In Oklahoma, the collection of both types of box turtles for commercial purposes is against the law. Box turtles reach sexual maturity at approximately 10 years of age and have a high nest and juvenile mortality rate. Due to these factors, the harvest of the turtles can have highly detrimental effects on populations.

“Oklahomans respect and value wildlife, and we don’t appreciate those who would seek to exploit our vulnerable wildlife populations for their corrupt greed. Laws created by Congress to protect wildlife, like the box turtle, will be enforced by the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Defendant Gangemi flagrantly violated state and federal laws by illegally collecting and exporting box turtles to the black market,” said U.S. Attorney Trent Shores. “As a result of the diligent investigative work undertaken by agents from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, Mr. Gangemi must now face the consequences.”

“This case is an excellent example of how state and federal law enforcement agencies work together to combat the illegal wildlife trade," said Phillip Land, a Special Agent in Charge for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. "We would like to thank the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and the U. S. Attorney's Office for their assistance with this case. Together, we can hold traffickers accountable and protect imperiled species for future generations."

As part of his plea agreement, Gangemi agreed to pay $250,000 in restitution to the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and a $100,000 fine to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for violation of the Lacey Act. The final restitution and fine amounts will be determined by the Court at the time of sentencing, which is scheduled for Jan. 27, 2020.

Gangemi also pleaded guilty to additional federal charges for trafficking wildlife in South Carolina and New Jersey.

The United States Fish and Wildlife Service, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service conducted the investigation. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ryan M. Roberts is prosecuting the case.
 
Old 10-24-2019, 01:38 PM   #122
elena
I saw a lecture by a conservationist who claimed that the unnatural loss of even a single adult turtle can have a significant impact on a population. Imagine the devastation caused by the loss of 1000. Anyone who claims to care about wild populations of reptiles should boycott this guy for life.
 
Old 10-24-2019, 03:09 PM   #123
Big Time Reptiles
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I saw a lecture by a conservationist who claimed that the unnatural loss of even a single adult turtle can have a significant impact on a population. Imagine the devastation caused by the loss of 1000. Anyone who claims to care about wild populations of reptiles should boycott this guy for life.



From the day he came on the scene, I had an bad intuition about him, and for the life of me, didn't know why, but the feeling was strong enough, that I never purchased from him. But did deal with one of his family members years ago, Ray, when he was in charge of the reptiles at Pet Farm, eons ago, 1979 & 1980 to be exact.


Now, that is if Gangemi was telling the truth about Ray being his uncle..


I know from this thread now, why I had this unsettling intuition.


Good things come to those, and he's getting his......
 
Old 10-24-2019, 04:29 PM   #124
elena
It disappoints me greatly that he did not get any jail time.
 
Old 10-25-2019, 01:13 AM   #125
LauraB
Agreed, Elena. After all, seems only fair that he receive the same sentence that all those animals received for years .... involuntary confinement, torture, hunger, pain ...
 
Old 10-25-2019, 01:15 AM   #126
elena
Lynn, they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, but in this case it rolled off a cliff.
 
Old 10-25-2019, 09:38 AM   #127
IslandLizards
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Agreed, Elena. After all, seems only fair that he receive the same sentence that all those animals received for years .... involuntary confinement, torture, hunger, pain ...
Then you would be including everyone else here including yourself. That is of course any animal you have told you they wanted to live with you.
 
Old 10-25-2019, 09:52 AM   #128
IslandLizards
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Oh didnt know about this one regarding box turtles in OK.
The other one was for some turtles out of South Carolina.
 
Old 10-25-2019, 05:07 PM   #129
Socratic Monologue
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Then you would be including everyone else here including yourself. That is of course any animal you have told you they wanted to live with you.
Right, because all captive herps are treated in the same way as are turtles that are poached and smuggled to China.

Go ahead and oversimplify the matter, though, if it makes you feel superior.
 
Old 10-25-2019, 05:53 PM   #130
IslandLizards
If you want to deny the fact there are similarities just to feel better about yourself and more superior then so be it.
 

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