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View Poll Results: would you consider Ron Trempers marketing methods to be blatenly dihonest?
DUH! ive known this for years! 21 25.93%
he may stretch the truth but ill still buy a nice albino from him. 31 38.27%
leave the guy alone. hes done alot for the leopard gecko community! 17 20.99%
ron tremper is the patron saint of the leopard gecko world. 2 2.47%
the 16X het is real. youre just dumb. 10 12.35%
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Old 05-21-2005, 02:40 PM   #1
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the AMAZING (so called) 16X het

this has been bothering me for a while.

admittingly i check ron trempers site often to see what he has available.

recently (and i dont know if its still on his web site) i noticed a normal appearing leopard gecko that he advertised as beening het for 16 traits.

now come on! thats imposible. being as it looks normal all of these traits would have to be recessive (unless he het for giant...which lets go ahead and assume).

so IF this animal is het for giant (making it a giant) that leaves 15 more traits that this animal is het for (did i mention he doesnt list ANY of the traits its supposedly het for).

so lets see whats available as far as recessive genes in leopard geckos:

-blizzard
-tremper albino
-rainwater albino
-bell albino
-patternless

okay so assuming this animal is a triple het for albino and het for patternless and blizzard thats still only a 6X het. what are the other 10 traits? say we add in ray hines hypo (which Ron Tremper proudly states hes never added ANY ray hines blood into his line, "but hes bought some of mine").

so even if they did have ray hines hypo in them thats still only 7 traits. even if somehow it was het for mack snow (which it clearly is not) thats still only 8. half of the traits he claims this leopard gecko is het for.

oh and i almost forgot his recessive stripe and reverse stripe line he claims to have not to mention his claims that jungle is a recessive trait (ive bought a super-tangerine albino that was supposedly het for jungle from him).

so there we go still only 11 traits and it would have to be het for all of the following:

-all 3 strains of albino
-blizzard
-patternless
-giant
-ray hines hypo (which he says hes never introduced to his line)
-mack snow (which it looks nothing like)
-jungle (which i hardly beleive is even a recessive trait)
-stripe and reverse stripe (which ive always been skeptical about them being recessive)

and were still 5 traits shy of our goal of 16 traits.

so what are the other 5? more fake recessives? is it het for carrot head? het for carrot tail? het for tangerine? het for hyperxanthic and pastel?

yeah ron its a good thing you dont feel like you have to answer to anyone in respect to claims like this one.

the sad thing is that it sold. someone actually bought this normal leopard gecko that is supposedly het for 16 traits. and i believe the price tag was about 400 dollars. a 400 dollar non-bling. now THATS marketing!!

sorry everyone but this has been driving me crazy lately. the idea that someone would make such a claim and not even expalin what hes selling.

well than ive got 42X hets ill be selling. matter of fact all of my geckos are now 42X hets.

"go ahead pick any one..."

"what about that one"

"oh it may look like a 50 dollar gecko, but come here... a little closer.. (whispers) its het for 42 different traits"

"42? wow? which tra..."

"...and its only 400 dollars"

"42 traits and its only $400?! WHAT A STEAL!!! heres my money!"

"yup. now run along. NEXT? we got het for blue albinos het for snow white albinos and animals that carry the NEW PATTERNLESS MORPH!"
 
 


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