Here's the story, you be the judge.
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Hey nice water...thanks for offering it up for sale. What payment
options do you accept?
If it is M.O. or check only, I need some referneces first please.
Thanks, Yes this one was the biggest out of the clutch so you got
a real good deal. I accept Personal check and Money order. With a
personal check i will have to wait for it to clear before i ship
the animal out because i just sold a adult savannah to some guy in
TN and he sent me a check and it bounced and i still havent got my
money. I can send you 2 more pictures of him if you want. Anyways
the address is XXXXXXXXXX.
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle, could I get a phone number to contact you at? And yes, please send the other pictures.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=64697
Yeah Sure. Would You Like my cell phone number or Home or Work? If
you would rather talk to me in person (well on the phone) thats
fine. Its Just I wished i knew you a little more before i started
giving you my phone number and stuff.
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle,
The reason I am asking for a phone number is because I don't
know you either. I have been in this hobby for several years now,
and have never been scammed out of my money or reptiles. The
reason for this is that I am very careful about who I deal with. I
am asking for your phone number so that I can call you and verify
that you are who you say you are and so forth. You don't have any
feedback on the website where you are selling this monitor, and
you never provided any references for me as I asked in the first
email to you. I would be very happy to do business with you, and
can mail the M.O. out on Monday, but I need a little cooperation
on your part first. Let me ask you a few other questions while I
have your attention. First, you say in the classified that this is
a cbb animal and later backup that statement by saying it was the
largest in the clutch. Did you produce this water personally? Also
do you know a James Chilcutt? If you need any info about me just
ask any of the people at the forum below which I own and operate. I look forward to having that little bugger in my collection soon.
Jim,
James Chilcutt is my The home owner of the house I live in, He is
My Step Brother and we are starting are own business in breeding
herps. Yes I Produced This Animal Myself Along with Flavi X Argus
Monitors, Savannahs,White throats. I can Give you email addresses
Of the People I have done Business With and you can ask them About
me and The quality of my animals.This is my first time selling on
reptibid and i personally dont like it because people try to rip
you off to much. I usally use Fauna and Kingsnake. If your Trying
to get me to ship out the animal before i get payment it wont
happen. the Last monitor i sold i got ripped off by Troy from
Exotics to Aquatics. He owes me 265$ for a adult savannah and 2
bearded dragons. My Phone Number is.
Also can you start emailing me at
because this is my work email address and i
only come on here when im at work.
If you are still not sure there are many ways around such as using
UPS ground and making it so i have to sign for the package. This
way when i get the money and for some reason i dont send the
monitor than you can call St Clair Shores Police Department and
Tell them My address and put a warrant out for me and they will
come get me.. I know all this because I am dealing with it all
because of that Troy guy. By doing this it will proof that i
recieved the money.
By the way what state are you in?
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle,
That will suffice, I will be sending out a postal M.O. on
Monday to the address you provided. Thanks!
Jim
Jim,
Email me and let me know when you send the MO out. I would like to
have the money by Thursday so i dont have to wait till monday to
ship him out.
Thanks,
Kyle
Jim Kuroski wrote:
I will be mailing it out today at around noon with overnight delivery.
Alright I will Ship him out tomorrow then. I fed him a pretty big
fuzzy mouse sunday so he will have food in his belly when he
arrives to you. What size tank are you going to be putting him in?
right now i have him in a 20 gallon.
and remember dont let the temps fall below 80. Water monitor babys
choose not to bask so its very important you keep the temps up so
he dont get sick.
thanks,
Kyle
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle,
I can't wait till it gets here. It's a very beautiful monitor.
I have worked with others kinds of monitors briefly most just
passing through on trades. I have worked with juvi and adult
Niles, and juvi Argus and Savs; but never a water. They are my
favorite monitor. I will be housing it in a 20 to start and have a
75 after than, then a 8x8x8 room when it's big enough. I am pretty
versed on monitor husbandry, but I will read up on salvator a
little more just to be sure. Thanks again...
The MO tracking number is 19789245346 coming to you on DHL.
I'm not sure if you got my previous email, but I was wondering if
you could ship him to my at my work, so I can be there to receive
him and then take him home. The address would be XXXXXXXXXXX.
Jim
Yup I got your other email and i will send him to that address.
Ive owned almost every kind of monitor out there besides a
kimberly rock monitor and i have to say that water monitors and
savannahs are my absolute favorite. They are almost naturally tame
and when you handle them daily they will get even tamer, To the
point where they will fall asleep in your arms. I am very relieved
knowing you have the space to house him. that 8x8x8 room is going
to be perfect and he will use every inch of it. In his first year
he will grow about 3-4 feet and then a foot per year after that so
that should give you a idea on how fast you will have to move him
into that 75 gallon. The only thing with this guy is that he is a
little bit of a picky eater. The only things i can get him to eat
is live fuzzy mice and scrambled eggs. The mice have to be live or
else he wont even show a intrest. but sometimes with live mice he
will kill the it and not eat it but when he does this dont take
the mouse out of the cage. give him a few minutes and he will eventually eat it. With the scrambled eggs just crack a egg into a frying pan and
scramble it. dont add any butter or milk. I hope you dont think im
busting your balls or trying to tell you how to take care of your
new pet its just i want him to go to a good home. If you have any
other questions just email me and I will send you the tracking
number as soon as i send him out.
Thanks,
Kyle.
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Have you tried SDZ diet? Also will he take crickets, mealworms, or roaches? If he only takes live mice and eggs, that's fine as well. I breed my own mice, for a few stubborn non-rat feeding snakes, and always have plenty.
Thanks again...
Hey,
I got your MO but could not ship out the lizard today because i got off work at 6 and had to go buy heat packs and there was just no time so tomorrow i will take him to work with me and ship him from there! He will have 2 heat packs so he will be nice and warm the whole ride. Here in michigan its like 17 degrees with 7 inches of snow. I havent tried SDZ diet but then again i never use that with any of my monitors. When he was smaller he would eat crickets and mealworms but now he doesnt show any interest in them. Hes like why would I chase all these little bugs when i could refuse them and get a nice fat fuzzy mouse? If i was him i would do the same thing. You can try roaches maybe he will eat them but if he doesnt you will be fine with fuzzy mice and scrambles eggs. he is a picky eater but feeds really well on those to items. Is he going to be a breeder or a pet? because he loves to get in the bath tub and swim around for 10-20 minutes. i usally do this 2-3 times a week.
What kind of substrate will you be using?
Thanks, sorry i couldnt send him out today but tomorrow for sure and i will email you around 3 or 4 p.m with the tracking number ( UPS comes at 3-4 p.m. at my work because we ship things out daily)
Jim Kuroski wrote:
That's fine about the shipping. Maybe I will try some different things with him and see how it goes. At least I know what he will eat for sure. For now he will just be a pet. Maybe when he gets older and I see him evert or not, I may look for one of the opposite sex. I plan on offering a large water basin as well as soaking him. I am probably going to start off with cypress mulch or a soil mix, but I am going to eventually keep him on decomposed granite if I can find some close to here that is to my liking. I have read wonders about that stuff for holding burrows and egg laying. I will also be adding a little Retes stack that I had built several years ago. Believe me, it will be very well taken care of.
Hey Jim,
The tracking number is 1Z4171490145372964
IT COST 26$ TO SHIP TO TX!!!!
thats crazy but no problem. Hope your happy with the little guy hes awesome
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle,
Hey man, we have a bit of a problem. The monitor arrived on-time, but not alive. Why did you pack it in such a small internal box with two heat packs taped to it? Those things average 135F and peak out at 165F. The box was warm when it arrived and I knew the monitor was dead before I even opened it from the smell. You really cooked the heck out of that beautiful thing. I am really disappointed and a bit upset that you would let that happen to a monitor you liked so much. I also am going to request my money back for him. I paid $149 for the money order plus $20 to overnight it to you. I would like the $145 purchase price back, and we will both be out the additional $25 odd dollars.
I have attached the photos that I said I would send. If you do not contact me within a few days, I will have to report this to the forums and the BOI. Don't let a single mistake ruin your name in this business. We need to talk.
Jim,
Damnit. Well as you can tell from the address I didnt pack it up and ship it my wife did From her work. ****, I told her he needed hand wamers and i guess thats what she did. The internal box wasnt to small its just it was for having 2 heatpacks taped on to it and the the insulation from the stuff in between the internal and external box. We didnt work out a live arrival garuntee or anything like that but I will try and get the 145$ back to you because that is what i would want to happen if i recieved a DOA. I could either do thas or send you another one and ill ship it personally and pay for shipping..its just that was a pretty big loss for me and a really stupid mistake on my part because my wife doesnt know anything about shipping reptiles. You know that If I have The experience to breed these animals than i would know better. You can give me the back feedback i deserve but i will still strike some sort of a deal with you. Those pictures kill me to look at. This was a real waste of a awesome animals life. Alright so email me back to work something out.
Once Again Sorry,
Kyle
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle,
I am open to whatever you want to do. If you have another water monitor, that would be ideal, but if not then maybe something else. I know we did not have a live arrival guarantee, but I appreciate your understanding in the matter. If the money is already spent, I am fine with giving you some time to come up with it as well. Let me know what you think.
Jim
03/05/2005 12:46PM
alright Give me a few days to think of something and i will get back to you
---multiple email attempts
03/21/2005 2:13PM
Jim Kuroski wrote:
Kyle, this is the last time I am going to attempt to contact you before I pursue other actions. I have given you adequate time to reply to my messages, and have been more than understanding about this matter. I am neither stupid, nor uneducated and plan on acting on this matter until it is resolved to my satisfaction. Be warned that this will go further than you might wish it to go if you do not reply to this message. All I am asking for is what is rightfully mine. You improperly packaged an animal which was no ones fault but your own and I should not be the one that is out money for your lack of experience and ignorance. If you would have come clean and said that your don't know how to ship instead of playing like your some big-time monitor breeder than maybe this wouldn't have happened. Every time I asked you a question, you gave me a half --- newbie answer that I knew was bull----. If it wasn't for the fact that the monitor was such a nice specimen, I would have never done business with you. People like you are what make this hobby bad for everyone else. Return my money or this email at least, or you will be hearing from me in a most unexpected way I assure you.
Jim
---Posted bad feedback after no return emails
Jim,
Sorry I wasnt here,
We did not make any live arrival garuntee so therefore i am not returning your money plus you already gave me a bad name.
Jim Kuroski wrote:
I am glad you are such a standup guy Kyle...thanks for stealing my money!
I am glad I went out of town and you decided to just go ahead and trash my name so i dont have to pay you 155$ Thanks alot for that. You saved me some cash
End of conversation, thought I would share my great experience.
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