Notices |
Hello!
Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.
Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....
Please note that the information requested during registration will be used to determine your legitimacy as a participant of this site. As such, any information you provide that is determined to be false, inaccurate, misleading, or highly suspicious will result in your registration being rejected. This is designed to try to discourage as much as possible those spammers and scammers that tend to plague sites of this nature, to the detriment of all the legitimate members trying to enjoy the features this site provides for them.
Of particular importance is the REQUIREMENT that you provide your REAL full name upon registering. Sorry, but this is not like other sites where anonymity is more the rule.
Also your TRUE location is important. If the location you enter in your profile field does not match the location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected. As such, I strongly urge registrants to avoid using a VPN service to register, as they are often used by spammers and scammers, and as such will be blocked when discovered when auditing new registrations.
Sorry about all these hoops to jump through, but I am quite serious about blocking spammers and scammers at the gate on this site and am doing the very best that I can to that effect. Trust me, I would rather be doing more interesting things with my time, and wouldn't be making this effort if I didn't think it was worthwhile.
|
|
07-11-2004, 04:51 PM
|
#1
|
|
Milking Heloderma
I know that Helodermas (both species) inject their venom through the teeth in their lower jaws. What, I was wondering was if it is possible to milk them? Is there an AV? If so, how is the venom obtained?
|
|
|
07-11-2004, 05:07 PM
|
#2
|
|
There is no antivenom, and they are difficult to milk for research purposes. The technique I have heard of is allowing them to chew on a sterile rubber sponge, possibly along with a dose of one of the drugs that reliably increases salivation and can be harmlessly reversed (neostigmine if I recall correctly).
|
|
|
07-11-2004, 05:31 PM
|
#3
|
|
I think they do not inject their venom through their teeth. Rather, as I recall, they have venom ducts or glands, that line the lower jaw and secrete the venom which then flows into a wound by the action of chewing. It is not by way of injection as with a syringe or a rattler fang.
Best reagrds,
Glenn B
|
|
|
07-11-2004, 05:59 PM
|
#4
|
|
An interesting side note is while there is no antivenin, gila venom is currently being used for research into the advancement of the treatment of diabetes, and is showing promise.
|
|
|
07-12-2004, 03:07 PM
|
#5
|
|
Glenn is correct when he states that
Heloderma don't actually inject venom through their teeth. Their teeth do have a groove on the outside of the tooth that directs the venom into the wound. The seriousness of a bite is usually a direct result of how long the animal is allowed to hang on and secrete it's venom.
The demand for Heloderma AV would probably be pretty low since bites are almost never fatal (although they can serious and can be extremely painful) and accidental bites are almost non existant. Heloderma bites are almost always the result of someone handling or otherwise disturbing a captive or wild animal.
Tanith's suggestion for aquiring venom would probably work. I've been bitten once on my Midwest kevlar glove and a significant amount of venom was left on the outer leather. (the bite did not penetrate the glove).
Chris
|
|
|
07-16-2004, 12:50 AM
|
#6
|
|
Mr Haast holds them upside down and has them bite a metal plate. You are lucky to get 2 or 3 drops per extraction.
|
|
|
Join
now to reply to this thread or open new ones
for your questions & comments! FaunaClassifieds.com
is the largest online community about Reptile
& Amphibians, Snakes, Lizards and number one
classifieds service with thousands of ads to look
for. Registration is open to everyone and FREE.
Click Here to Register!
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:39 AM.
|
|