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Old 05-13-2007, 11:28 AM   #1
Bill & Amy
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Originally Posted by Cruel
Donīt think it has to do something with the age of people.
I never sad it IS a normal, but I said in my eyes it looks LIKE a normal bp.
I also didnīt say I would not hold him back, I would do, but as a normal ...
I think this is a really nice bp , but why does everyone always want to make his bp a special morph, because he has some flames, etc?
Nice normal, in my eyes, but if he proofs out to be a morph in a few years, even better...
I would say: wait until he has proofed , until that time I would prefer to call him a normal bp.
This text should not be an attack, but I only wanted to say that not every small difference to normal bps makes one bp a special morph...
Best Regardes
Benjamin
The whole point is NOBODY knows. To say it is a normal and could never be anything else isn't true, RKO has no way of knowing that.

I listed characterisitcs of a normal 18 year old. Ask anyone if they think their teenager thinks they know everything and see what the answer is.

Nobody said "this is absolutely a new morph". But with all the things that have been proven out from "normal" looking animals, NOONE can say for sure it isn't.

 
Old 05-13-2007, 11:36 AM   #2
SPJ
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
The whole point is NOBODY knows. To say it is a normal and could never be anything else isn't true, RKO has no way of knowing that.

I listed characterisitcs of a normal 18 year old. Ask anyone if they think their teenager thinks they know everything and see what the answer is.

Nobody said "this is absolutely a new morph". But with all the things that have been proven out from "normal" looking animals, NOONE can say for sure it isn't.

Exactly. Who would have thought that YB's could produce ivories? Those snakes look just like every other except for some subtle differences.

IMO this guy has enough "uniqueness" to see what happens when bred.

If he produces normals, that's OK.
If he produces something cool, that's OK too.
 
Old 05-14-2007, 02:27 AM   #3
RKO1
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Originally Posted by Bill & Amy
Full of himself, thinks he knows everything, nobody else knows anything. Sounds NORMAL for an 18 year old.
Or I can tell what a NORMAL is...
 
Old 05-13-2007, 01:07 PM   #4
Gary O
Steve it is a cool snake brother. RKO is young do not let him bother you. See some people just get upset when they do not have the cool animal. And have to put down other animals to make their own collection seem better lol.

Steve IMO I would keep that snake myself if I hatched it. ANd I would take it to one of my females no question about it. I would also take it to a spider female and a mojave female. That is just me. I think this male you have is sweet. And you never know what you will get when you breed it. I seen RKO say WASTE A FEMALE. Bro in this hobby you would not bewasting the female.

Keep it bro. Breed it and let us see what it produces. I am hoping for some cool things
 
Old 05-13-2007, 03:43 PM   #5
RKO1
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And have to put down other animals to make their own collection seem better lol.
I didnt put anyone down, it stated the truth, it is a normal.
Gary, i cant believe your sitting there lying, you would never bred a normal male to a breedable spider or mojave female, that would be insane.
 
Old 05-13-2007, 03:58 PM   #6
texasnewbie
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Originally Posted by RKO1
you would never bred a normal male to a breedable spider or mojave female, that would be insane.
Why not? Unless all your worried about is the money you would lose on possible sales? Putting a pretty blue/grey eyed 'normal' ball to a mojave/ spider may produce some really amazing young or it may produce some very pretty normals, what have you lost? Nothing unless your wallet is that important to you that you wouldn't 'waste' a breedable female.....
 
Old 05-13-2007, 05:33 PM   #7
RKO1
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Originally Posted by texasnewbie
Why not? Unless all your worried about is the money you would lose on possible sales? Putting a pretty blue/grey eyed 'normal' ball to a mojave/ spider may produce some really amazing young or it may produce some very pretty normals, what have you lost? Nothing unless your wallet is that important to you that you wouldn't 'waste' a breedable female.....
Has nothing to do with money.
Breedable female morphs are valuble because of COMBOS.
I would rather make a nice combo, then normals, mojaves and spiders.
I would be alot more excited when i saw a bee, or a blue eyed lucy pipping than a spider, mojave or NORMAL.
 
Old 05-13-2007, 07:32 PM   #8
Cat_72
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Originally Posted by RKO1
Has nothing to do with money.
Breedable female morphs are valuble because of COMBOS.
I would rather make a nice combo, then normals, mojaves and spiders.
I would be alot more excited when i saw a bee, or a blue eyed lucy pipping than a spider, mojave or NORMAL.
But just THINK how excited you'd be if you saw something totally NEW pop out of that "normal" male.

Just think how folks felt when that first super stripe pipped....

But then some will never take the chance and find out, huh?
 
Old 05-13-2007, 07:59 PM   #9
SPJ
Breeding him to ANY female would not be wasting a female in my opinion.
So what if you get all normals? There is nothing wrong with that. Whether it is a blue eyed lucy or a normal peeking out of the egg, it's still exciting.
I have normal males here that I would never sell in a million years. I've raised them all their lives and they are "special" to me.
No animal is a waste IMO.
You may not think he is anything worth keeping since he is a male but I think he would make a great dinking project.
Just raising him to breeding size and having him breed would be worth it to me whether he produces all normal males or if he produces something cool. It doesn't matter. Would I like for him to produce cool offspring? Yes and if what people have told me is true, he is most likely a harlequin, which means the pattern and color is reproduceable.
You wondered why there where threads around regarding this snake. People have asked to see more pictures of him because they (as well as myself) have seen something unique with this guy and I have no problem showing him off.
I bet you are one of those people that think normal males are wortthless aren't you? Well, I don't think ANY are worthless.
 
Old 05-13-2007, 04:34 PM   #10
jasballs
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Originally Posted by RKO1
I didnt put anyone down, it stated the truth, it is a normal.
Gary, i cant believe your sitting there lying, you would never bred a normal male to a breedable spider or mojave female, that would be insane.
If he is normal, You would only get spiders and or mojaves. With some more normals of course. Whats wrong with that? More spider,mojave females!! Drolling over here!!! It's better then getting a wc gravid female and selling all the offspring as you are D1CKHEAD!!
 
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