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Old 01-29-2017, 05:20 AM   #571
Sugarhedgie
I'm pretty sure it's past the PayPal timefrane but they would have only given me back the 400 as well. I did leave messages for the attorney generals. But they haven't responded.
I paid the IRCF directly. Through PayPal. I agree that with me it was a bait and switch. But I won't prevail in my state (is only get 500) I didn't risk 400 to win and get nothing. He didn't produce the "2500 t- tegus just the $5,000 ones. The other 2 winners and the other guy who won the auction for the t+ that ty. Claimed was mine all got t+ Purples and i should have as well.
I may have to suck it up and get a lawyer and go to superior court. I'm my state we have chapter 93a "unfair and deceptive business practices it's a triple damage thing that what ty did and the shadiness of how he handles it falls into
That too, I'm superior court they could hear the slander part too. But it gets tricky when 3 states are involved.

I agree it by definition was a fraudulent bait and switch

If you could. Could you please Pm me with the contact info for the attorneys. Thank you


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Originally Posted by filenamex5100 View Post
I may be way out of my mind here but ill take a crack. been reading this for the past 2 hours.
is it possible to file a federal lawsuit for fraud? the animal would have to cross state lines which could make it federal jurisdiction right? how did you pay the $400? you can sue on the bases on electronic fraud or postal fraud if you mailed it (maybe only with a usps money order).

perhaps the raffle was illegal in your state but that should exclude you from punitive damages (which include headaches, embarrassment, etc etc). I recently sued the credit bureaus and won so I am fairly familiar with certain aspect on the a lawsuit with regards to damages....which is where the majority of your damages and compensation would come from. I sued on a federal level. texas allows triple damages (award x3) so maybe I should've went that route.
it really irritates me to see this scenario playing out for you. its a nightmare. you will at a very minimum get your $400 back. if you are not awarded additional punitive damages, I would think the alternative would be jail time for him. you absolutely want to have your ducks in a row if you push it to the federal level. document every single piece of paper your printed, time on the phone, fuel cost to and from anywhere that has a direct relation to your case. decide what a reasonable settlement amount would be for those items. I did that as well and then multiplied it by 3 to get my punitive damages. if you get a judge that 100% agrees with you, that information could become his framework for your award and save him the time. hence why I said make it reasonable. you cant ask for a million dollors....however....punitive damages can add up to be 90% of a settlement dollar amount.

you absolutely have a case! illegal raffle or not...he cannot commit fraud because you broke a law. this really looks like fraud to me. I would even say its the textbook example of a bait and switch fraud scheme. he would've had a better shot at saying no one won at all! obviously that is fraud to but he could have gotten away with that a little easier.

I have ZERO clue if my lawyers can be of any help but I would encourage you to contact them and see if they can help. they helped me a great deal at no charge! SmithMarco from Chicago. I'm not even sure they support this type of lawsuit but its worth a shot. call or email larry or david.

I really hope you get it figured out. I don't know either one of you but so far this Ty character is a piece of trash!
**for the record....you are not greedy. you simply want what you paid for and nothing more.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 09:35 PM   #572
Sugarhedgie
I just received a response from the FL attorney generals office. They are forwarding my original email to several other departments and have me several agency's to follow up with. For once I feel like its going on the right direction and I may get justice
 
Old 02-02-2017, 09:52 PM   #573
Chris Kennard
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I just received a response from the FL attorney generals office. They are forwarding my original email to several other departments and have me several agency's to follow up with. For once I feel like its going on the right direction and I may get justice
BEST OF LUCK!
 
Old 02-02-2017, 09:58 PM   #574
filenamex5100
it will go somewhere. you were scammed plain as day!!
I think they will convince him to give you what you won, or allow you to open a case against him where you will then be allowed to prevail in court. maybe civil court on your end but if he refuses to give you what you paid for and won, he could likely end up in criminal court.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:09 PM   #575
Sugarhedgie
i will be contacting these offices tomorrow


this was what i wrote to them


INTERNET MESSAGE RECEIVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE ON 12/26/2016

Name/Firm/Company: Ty (Teaspoon) Park/ ty's lizzards
Subject/Category: online raffle
Street Address: 33900 Bermont rd.
City: Punta Gorda, FL 33982 Charlotte
Phone: (847) 358-0930
Website: https://www.facebook.com/typherp?fref=ts and https://www.facebook.com/tyslizards/?fref=ts
Date of Transaction: 03/15/2016
Amount Paid: $400.00

Questions/Comments:
ty park held a raffle to benefit the IRCF reptile foundation. he sold 60 raffle
tickets at $100 each within about an hour. i was one of the winners and he
refuses to deliver the prize.
he stated that i did not deserve it and he re raffled the tegu he claims that
was mine. when he raffles it the 2nd time he received a donation of $3000 and
the winner paid an additional $2,510
so the total he got for this tegu was $8,510.00


below is the longer version
.
march 2016 he held an online raffle. the terms were clear, they were
1. for an albino tegu
2. to be delivered by july 31 2016, and
3. that would be produced by him. it even stated that "if he did not produce
any, chance of this happening is almost none, he would pay the winner $3,000.00
out of his own pocket”

the tickets were $100.00 each.
i purchased 4 tickets totaling $400.00
i was one of the winners, but Mr. Ty park did not honor his contract
on july 31 2016 i contacted him and asked him if he had produced any albino
blue tegus yet. he said “ not yet, soon I’m sure”
on aug 13 2016 i contacted him again and asked him again if he had produced any
yet. he said “no all i produced were albino purple tegus, so i asked him if he
would be willing to give me a purple albino as that was all he had produced but
he said "NO i owe you $2,500.00 the purple is $5,000.00”
he further stated that he would go buy one for me from a friend “this weekend”
and ship it to me on monday. i expressed my concerns about getting it from
another breeder and i asked him if he could just pay me the money ($3,000.00)
instead. this is where his true colors came out!!
he said NO!! and he became rude and hostile.
feeling backed into a corner i went ahead and asked him for the breeders info
anyway as i wanted to work something out. he would not even give me this info
which i feel is important as i would like too know where my animals come from
(especially when i entered into this raffle for one of Ty Parks animals as i
had heard he was a top notch breeder.)

because he tried to change the terms of the raffle prize several times at this
time, i admit i did not trust him anymore….
we engaged in some private messages still in attempts to try and settle this,
with no prevail. he continued to be rude, hostile and was talking to me like he
was above me.(later finding out that he does this to many people. especially
when they challenge him on something)
he called me greedy, uneducated, and thankless both in pm's and on his public
posts.
he accused me on one of his posts of calling him a scammer, but that was a lie.
i never called him a scammer. what i did say to him in private message when he
was denying me of my prize, was that “ if i had known this (referring to the
raffle)was going to be shady an scammy i probably wouldn’t have bought any
raffle tickets"

he made several posts on his page most with misleading information, where over
8,000 of his followers could see and engage in. he has many people that for
some reason seam to worship the ground he walks on. those people were in total
support of him and those people also made negative and slanderous comments
about me, some even took it as far as making public threats of physical harm
towards me.
what i found was interesting was that several people (on his page) private
messaged me showing their support of me and their unhappiness with ty and how
ty has dealt with this whole situation.
they continue to support me.

i did file a small claims when i knew that i was not going to ever see the
prize or the alternative prize which were offered.
small claims hearing date was supposed to be on Nov. 8th 2016.

Mr. Park filed several motions, a counter claim for $4,500.00 and a continuance
(which was granted), and a motion to be allowed to be present at the
rescheduled hearing date of dec. 13th 2016 via telephone most of his motion and
answers he was not forthcoming and again dishonest. he asked the court for the
continuance stating that he could not leave the farm at this time (for the
scheduled Nov.8 2016 hearing date) because he has several animals that need his
care and if he had to go to court in mass that his animals could die. on his
own fb page he posted that he went on several out of state vacations during
that time (Nov. 1-11th) which again proves that he is at the very least he is
dishonest.

we are in different states, and each state has their own laws, different
jurisdictions and rules on filing a small claims.
today i went in front of the clerk, where the clerk explained a few
technicalities to me. the clerk contacted Mr park and asked him if he wanted to
make any offers to me and told him that he was just trying to see if we could
resolve this. Mr park said NO. the clerk was only aware of the things that Mr.
Park represented to the court as my evidence was in my hand ready to be given
at todays trial to the magistrate . but after i showed him a few things in my
evidence / exhibits, rebutting a few things that were stated by Ty. the clerk
asked me if i would be willing to take a tegu that he produced , i sID YES.
(this is what i wanted the whole time) the clerk called him back and asked if
he was still willing to give me one of the t+ albino purple tegus that he
produced. ( that he said many times to his followers that he offered me. with
was not true) there was some conversation re: times of year that clutches
hatched etc. ty said he had raffled off the one he was going to give me (he
sold 30 raffle tickets totaling $3,000 and recently raffled for another $3,500)
he said he didn’t have any more available this year (which is also not true)
but when asked if he would be willing to give me one in july of next year he
said NO.
its clear that i will definitely get the money for court costs and the raffle
tickets but the clerk set another date, so i could explore the option of
retaining counsel if i wished and to further explore florida state laws
pertaining to some issues raised in this transaction.

while somethings seam so clear cut, it is obvious that when you put your trust
in something and enter a raffle, you may not end up with the prize as promised.
just like contracts they are only enforced if you pursue them..

this will be a lesson learned but i wanted to post this and urge people to use
caution when dealing with Mr. Ty (taesoon) Park…….


I have our whole conversations on messager, all of his posts he made about me
where he called me greedy, uneducated, thankless etc and proof he shipped the
other 2 winners an albino purple tegu. His public comments telling his
followers that he offered me a purple albino which was a lie because when I
asked him he said no saying he didn't feel I deserve one.

here is the link to the fauna classified post about this transaction gone bad
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...49#post1969049

any help would be greatly appreciated as this man cheated me out of a prize
valued at $3000
__________________________________________________ _____________



this was their response to my email

From: attorney.general@myfloridalegal.com
Date: February 2, 2017 at 5:07:01 PM EST
To: MICHELLEAC@AOL.COM
Subject: From Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi

Dear Ms. Cutler:

The Florida Attorney General's Office received your correspondence regarding a charity raffle conducted by a Mr. Ty Park of Ty's Lizzards in Punta Gorda, Florida. Attorney General Pam Bondi asked me to respond.

Thank you for considering our office as a source of assistance. The Florida Attorney General's Office is concerned with all potentially unfair and deceptive trade practices in our state. We are forwarding your information to the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Division for review.

We are also forwarding your correspondence to the the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DACS), which registers game promotions, raffles and sweepstakes in our state. To follow up on your complaint with that agency contact:

Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
Division of Consumer Services
2005 Apalachee Parkway
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0800
Telephone: (850) 410-3800
Toll-free in Florida: (800) 435-7352
Website: www.800helpfla.com

In addition, we are also forwarding your correspondence to the Attorney General's Seniors vs. Crime Program that helps consumers resolve individual disputes. You may contact the program by calling toll-free (800) 203-3099 or visit www.seniorsvscrime.com.

You may also wish to consult the following consumer service organizations:

Federal Trade Commission
Toll-free: (877) 382-4357
Website: www.ftc.gov
Online Complaints: http://www.ftc.gov/faq/consumer-prot...-complaint-ftc

Better Business Bureau of West Florida, Inc.
2653 McCormick Drive
Clearwater, Florida 33759
Telephone: (727) 535-5522
Fax: (727) 539-6301
Email: info@bbbwestflorida.org
Website: www.bbbwestflorida.org

Finally, individual citizens may bring civil action through the courts for damages, attorney’s fees and court costs under Florida’s Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act. Because our office is not at liberty to give legal guidance to individual consumers, please consult a private attorney to discuss your legal options. The Florida Bar offers a Lawyer Referral Service toll free at (800) 342-8060, or online at www.floridabar.org/lawyerreferral. If you would rather speak with an attorney closer to home, the Massachusetts Bar Association also offers a lawyer referral service at (617) 654-0400 or (866) 627-7577, or via their website at www.masslawhelp.com.

Thank you for contacting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi's Office. We hope this proves helpful to you.

Sincerely,

Martin T. Green
Office of Citizen Services
Florida Attorney General's OfficePL-01, The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-1050
Telephone: (850) 414-3990
Toll-free within Florida: (866) 966-7226
Website: www.myfloridalegal.com

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL. THIS ADDRESS IS FOR PROCESSING ONLY.

To contact this office please visit the Attorney General's website at www.myfloridalegal.com and complete the on-line contact form. For news on Attorney General Bondi's efforts to fight fraud, please click the following link and subscribe to the Attorney General's electronic newsletters at http://myfloridalegal.com/NewsBrie.nsf/Subscriber.
__________________________________________________ ____________


if anyone else would like to contact them as well it would be greatly apreciated.

thank you for all of your suport
michelle
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:19 PM   #576
Sugarhedgie
i also sent the ircf another message asking for an accounting of the donations that they received from the march 10th raffle and also when ty auctioned the tegu he claimed he was holding for me off, that brought another $3,000 and $2510
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:21 PM   #577
Big Time Reptiles
[quote=Sugarhedgie;1977626]i will be contacting these offices tomorrow


Michelle,

Don't let up, Keep Fighting the Fight!

Best of Luck to you!

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 
Old 02-03-2017, 12:38 AM   #578
FresnoTortoise
I'm cheering for Ty Park.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 12:55 AM   #579
Bobby Douglass
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I'm cheering for Ty Park.
That says a lot about you.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 12:57 AM   #580
juliasara
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Originally Posted by FresnoTortoise View Post
I'm cheering for Ty Park.
And I'm sure tons of people will now avoid doing business with you.
 

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