Anyone Delt with Carolina Reptile Exchange L.L.C.???

I'm not gonna read all that lol.... I know it is just a bunch of drama and what not....

Yea, I wouldn't waste a wjole lot of time reading every little detail about them, it's pretty freaking obvious. However, I wouldn't right it all off as "drama" either. It's the truth, the whole truth, so help THEM God.

The new LLC has me Does everyone know what that means??? Can you say, Limited LIABILTY Cooperation. Hmmm....now why would they be so concerned about their LIABILTY status???? They SUCK, period. Then again, KS still has them as a legit account holder, so they have the right to post up whatever they want, whenever they want. "Why is that", you ask?? Simple, every single person that has walked into their sh**hole store needs to contact the proper authorities, EVERYONE burnt over at KS NEEDS to file a complaint...three strikes and they're out policy...what's wrong with this picture???

With that said, we as hobbiest and collectors are to blame...newbies, be afraid - be very afraid. Until we as a community REFUSE to allow dirt peddlers like this continue to do business among us, we're every bit as guilty..."what can we do about it??" Well, let me think...BOMBARD any ads you see posted by them with concerns regarding their existence in this wonderful hobby, don't just "skip" over them because we assume everyone already knows. CONTINUE to BUMP any/all threads here at Fauna on these JO's any and everytime you see an ad posted, anywhere. CALL them out. VISIT their place of business and witness for yourself - then do the right thing. TAKE TURNS as hobbiest and avid "forum users" to post comments regarding SCRE LLC, I know they'll get pu;;ed, but someone will see them, and as long as we "take turns posting" say one per month per user - times 1,000 only the extremists would have to worry about a "warning" or an acct. termination

Seriously people...why are they still here?????

Seriously people...why are they still here?????

Simply because of the following ad:

HYPO LABRYNTH $300 SHIPPED or best offer
Nationwide shipping (NO EXPORT OR FOREIGN BUYERS)
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you got it right !
a hypo laby ROCK
selling elswhere for over $1000

our SALE PRICE $300 SHIPPED !!!!!taking ofers !

2 FT PLUS !
MALE
ROCK solid feeder on froz/thawed rats
GET IN ON THIS NEW MORPH NOW !!!1

paypal,west union/postal m.o. or wire transfer
please NO BANK OR CASHIERS CHECKS

QUESTIONS CALL THE SHOP
mon 4-7,tue-sat 2-7,sun 2-6
(803) 548-8BOA

possible trades
etb/gtp
boa morphs
granite/laby burms
gilas
albino western d-backs
formosas,and speck cobras
albino monical adults

CASH IS GREAT TOO !

thanks and God Bless
CHECK OUT OUR OTHER "DINOSAUR DEALS"

There are people still looking for “el cheapo” deals rather than requesting and expecting quality. An animal that sells elsewhere for $1,000 is being sold for $300, what’s wrong with that picture?

OH YEAH ! LONG TERM VENOMOIDS !
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Posted by Carolina Reptile Exchange and Co op L.L.C. (Contact Me!) on October 24, 2005 at 23:35:46
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here they are
vet done
full gland and duct removal
never can or will produce venom !

.1 green mamba
7 ft
west african
done 3 yrs
$800

huge 7 ft plus SOLD
banded egyptian cobra
female, proven breeder
done 5 yrs
$ 900

1.1 huge puffs
done 2 yrs
$600 ea

1. cantil
WOW
done 2 yrs
absolutly perfect !
$400

2 huge female gaboons ,
done 2 yrs cb 03
eating jumbo rats
$700

1 cb 03 black pak. cobra
unbelievable
done 18 months
$600

1 LEMON DROP PUFF
this one is unbelievable !
done 18 months
$700 sale pending

newly done
albino "orange phase" monical cobras
these even have implants !
$550 SPECIAL !(this is pre arrival pricing)

comming soon adult cb westerns ! 3 ft plus $400
huge 4 ft eastern D.B. $550

Sorry most our cb kings are sold for the year
but we may have some that are not claimed
let us know if you want on the waiting list...
prices start at $1800

paypal,
postal/west union m.o.
west union wire
live arrival
shipping via delta only !
$70 or less (collect)

Questions ? call (803)548- 8BOA 4-7 pm mon - sat
2-6 sun, or visit our web page !

thanks for looking

the "gang" at C.R.E. !

HATE VENOMOIDS ?
TOO BAD WE LOVE THEM !
SAVE YOUR HATE MAIL ! WE HAVE THE TRACKING SOFTWARE
TO FIND OUT YOUR U.R.L., yes we will know who sent it !

thanks and God bless !

Another LIE from the good fold at CRE.

Their tracking software. (if they actually even have one)
will not tell them what your URL is.
Their tracking software (if they have one....WHICH WE KNOW THEY DON'T)
will not tell them who you are.

Just more lies from the PROVEN SCUM at CRE

The new LLC has me Does everyone know what that means??? Can you say, Limited LIABILTY Cooperation.

Actually it is Limited Liability Company

That way their liability will be Limited when one of the snakes they butcher turns out to still be hot.


I don't know if I am ready to believe he is a Limited Liability Copmpany.

After all I do not even believe he is a co-op

Attached you will see a fake receipt hce inc. Harry's company formed after he died. The receipt was also acquired after he was already dead. (Thanks to Bruce of course)

Attached you will see fake pictures of bruce and his son fishing. If You dont believe me it might still be on their website.

attached is also a picture of a snake with HCE Investments INC. it also appeared AFTER harry has been dead for two years. (Thanks to bruce again)

Also enclosed is a picture of Bruce from when he was in Jail. Which he denied to me in e-mail. I wrote him something like.....ha ha how was the weekend in jail.

He wrote back saying something like....I was never in jail.


Of course all the Bruce lovers out there will say that none of the above matters.

I wonder what would happen when the right people "authorities" are informed of bruces past conviction in regards to animals? I bet he loses his business.
Oh yeah....it is probably not in his name. it is progbably in the name of one of his imaginary people. Perhaps it is in his dead father's name. Who knows.
Think of the lowest possible outcome....... That is probably the real explanation.

Posted by Carolina Reptile Exchange (Contact Me!) on September 08, 2003 at 21:54:16
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Harry Eisenman has provided
a few more 100% het pieds
some from a pied to normal
some from a pied to het
all are may/june babies
females $1300
males $750
all are feeding on rat pinkies
group prices and offers considered

100 % het albinos
bred and born here in the store
3.3 avail
females $600
males $250
pairs $750

all prices are "or best offer"
paypal and money orders sent overnight ONLY
shipping $40-75 billed by carrier(price varries by carrier)

ONLY TRADES
albino boas
burm morphs
retic morphs
waglers vipers
eyelash vipers
albino atrox
venomoids
tortises and matas

we will be in columbia this weekend
or visit our store
1/2 mile off interstate 77(carrowinds blvd)
on the N.c / S.c border

questions? call (803)548-8BOA
1-8 mon thru sat
2-6 sun

Thanx !
pictures are not nessesaraly the parents of offspring
pics avail by request




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The above was posted on September 8 2003
Harry died on May 1999

I wish I had Harry's talent of producing animals 5 years and four months after he was in the grave.


and as aforementioned. The Bruce lover's out there will pretend not to see the above. or they will say it is not that bad. Or they will say I am lying

As to the LLC. With these folks track record, it would not surprise me if they are not registered as an LLC in the state of NC. And if they are, it would not surprise me that their Operating Agreement and other corporate documents are not in accordance with NC statutes. And if by some chance they are, it would not surprise me if they have violated, and will continue to violate, those agreements. I think it highly likely that should someone have cause to sue these folks, that while you could sue the LLC, any decent attorney would also find multiple opportunities to "pierce the coorporate veil" and go after the individuals and their personal assets. Maintaining corporate integrity means playing by the rules, and IMHO their track record would seem to indicate that is an impossibility with CRE, LLC.

Oh check out what I just found.

Who are we ?



Noah Watanabe, a first nations member of the Cherokee tribe and Wyandott tribe, founded Carolina Reptile in 1980, as a place for co-op members to gather, share information, and buy products at a reduced rate, as well as a sort of club with a family atmosphere for all members mutual benefit.

About Us
Our founder,has his Doctorate in Herpetology, We feature breeder and venomous classes, and our professionals travel to schools and special learning events.

So who was the founder?

I thought it was Noah.
And I thought it was bruce who had the fake phd in herpetology?

I think they forgot who founded the place and who has the phd. Unless they are now claiming that NOAH has a phd. Yes the person named NOAH , who NO ONE has seen except for bruce.

They have so many lies...they can't keep it straight.




And before ANYONE even thinks about dealing with these people.
Ask yourselves why any respectable establishment will need the rules in the quotes below

19) we personaly guarentee ,you attitude and language will reflect ,price,and our comitment to helping you.If you swear at us on the phone ,WE WILL HANG UP.if you are beligerant in the store,YOU WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE(by york countys finest)

PLEASE BE AWARE !these rules and guarentees are set be industry standards,of some of the largest dealers in the country.

The largest dealers in the country do not need the above rules.
You will not fin the above rules on any respectable breeder.

Their grammar and punctuation just make me want to buy every het they have. Ph. D my arse!!! P =Piled, H = Higher, D & Deeper, that's what his Ph. D stands for.

Originally Posted by Chamco

As to the LLC. With these folks track record, it would not surprise me if they are not registered as an LLC in the state of NC. And if they are, it would not surprise me that their Operating Agreement and other corporate documents are not in accordance with NC statutes. And if by some chance they are, it would not surprise me if they have violated, and will continue to violate, those agreements. I think it highly likely that should someone have cause to sue these folks, that while you could sue the LLC, any decent attorney would also find multiple opportunities to "pierce the coorporate veil" and go after the individuals and their personal assets. Maintaining corporate integrity means playing by the rules, and IMHO their track record would seem to indicate that is an impossibility with CRE, LLC.

And even if they are operating completely within the law from the perspective of maintaining their LLC, no corporate-type protection exists to cover an individual's behavior. Example - if an "employee" of an LLC or a corporation intentionally and willfully commits fraud and/or is negligent while performing said duties, that person (along with the entity) is liable for his or her actions. The protection extends to to other members of the LLC but not to the individual who did the "bad deed". For instance, a physician who is employed by a professional corporation or by a limited liability company. If that physician is negligent, he or she can be sued personally, along with the entity, but the other partners/members are protected.

Bruce actually had the nerve to show up at the Colombia SC Show this weekend. While he is banned from being a vendor, he came as a buyer. Fortunately, there were only one or two dealers that would even sell to him. But he still managed to pick up a couple venomous (at least venomous for now). Most of us that are Venomous Snake Escorts refused to carry his animals. It got quite heated between a vendor that sold him a cobra and another vendor who knows Bruce. The fact that virtually every vendor at an expo refuses to even sell him anything should be a big indicator of the type of person he is.

I will give him one thing, it took a set of brass ones to even show up at the expo, much less wearing his Carolina Reptile Exchange shirt.