It sucks that it's come to this but here we go. The short version is that I sent Dean a bunch of animals and he's not paying for them. I had done business with him in the past so I was willing to take the risk and send them without payment. I was in the process of moving and didn't want to take these animals with me and there was a window of opportunity in the weather which had been too cold and would be too cold again soon so I went ahead and sent them without getting paid on them first. Dean told me several times that he had sent some payments and I should be getting them soon but no payments have ever arrived and now he's stopped all communication. Almost everything was done via e-mail so I'll post them all next. These start on 11-9. There was stuff before that but it's not pertinent. Stay tuned.....
Me on 11-9
Hey Dean,
The 10 lot of pastel males did in fact sell. They didn't take the normals
though. Anyway, here's a list of what I have left and their regular
prices...
Ball Pythons
3 pinstripe males $450
5 axanthic males $2000
3 pastel males $150
5 pastel females $500
26 normals $260
1 male het axanthic $50
4 female het axanthic $600
1 mojave male $150
6 yellowbelly males $300
6 yellowbelly females $900
1 spider male $100
Boas
4 hypo het albino and anery males $400
9 hypo het albino and anery females $1350
8 double het snow males $600
2 double het snow females $200
I think that's it. Normal price for all that is.... $8010. If you take it
all, and pay with postal money orders, I'll do it for half price. $4005 and
I'll eat the $300-$400 that shipping will cost. I realize that's quite a
chunk of cash but there's lots of room to make some money on them. Alright,
let me know what you think. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 11-9
Hey Chris,
Nice package deal. The problem for me is the weather has already turned. We are getting below 40s at night now so we wouldn't be able to receive until spring like last time. I could probably come up with the cash within a month or so but, I realize that doesn't help you any. That's a lot of mouths to feed on the meantime. I want the deal so don't take it as that I don't. If I could come up with 4k tomorrow, I would jump all over it.
Let me know if you can think of anything and I will speak to my wife and see if she has any ideas too.
Regards
Dean
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 11-10
Hey Dean,
Yeah, I see your weather is up and down. I think we could get them out to
you if we did it soon. Let me know what you come up with and I'll think on
it some and we'll make this happen. Thanks! -Chris
Me on 11-19
Hey Dean,
You guys come up with anything? I just wanted to touch base with you and
see what you had in mind before I sell any of the stuff on the list.
Alright, let me know. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 11-19
Hey Chris,
Right now, it would be impossible to come up with 4000.00 in time for the
Christmas season to get those to sell. I could do some of it right now, but
that probably isnt what you are looking for. On Fauna, Ive been trying to raise
some more cash to see if I can get close to the 4000.00 but not getting very
far. I know I could come up with some of it, at the same price break, by
Monday for a Monday shipping but not sure if I can arrange more. Dont get me
wrong though, I am really trying... LoL
I dont know if you would be interested but if you were willing to do the same
price break (half), I think I could defnitely do the
3.0 Pinstripes
3.5 Pastels
26 Normals
1.0 Mojave
1.0 Spider
Let me know what sort of pricing you can give me on those animals in the
meantime.
Me on 11-19
Hey Dean,
How about this... If you send me half the money, I'll send them all to you
and you can pay on the remaining balance over a few months. Just let me know
what size payment you can swing and we'll figure out the timeframe. We did a
good sized deal last year and you trusted me with your money so I feel as
though you'd be good for it. Am I right? I could do the smaller deal, just
not as good pricing though. On that group you mentioned, you'd be looking at
$1610. I'd do them for 25% off which would be $1207.50 plus shipping which
will run $200 for the 4 boxes. It's still a good deal, just not nearly as
good as the big package. Alright, let me know what you think.
hanks. -Chris
Me on 11-19
By the way, the reason I want to move these out so soon is that I'm moving.
I'd rather ship them to you than move them to my new place. Know what I
mean?
Dean on 11-19
Chris,
I know where you are coming from and yes, I know we have a great working
relationship with a lot of trust involved. I would never think that you would
keep my small money, or me keep your snakes without paying. I will see what
sort of cash I come up with this weekend and email you first thing Monday
morning and let you know how much I came up with. I think I can get close to
2000.00 but its going to be tight.
Dean
Me on 11-21
Hey Dean,
Here's what I'm thinking. If you can get postal money orders for whatever
you can come up with and e-mail me pics of them, filled out with my name on
them, I'll ship these all out to you tomorrow afternoon. You can also mail
me the money orders tomorrow and let me know what kind of payments you're
comfortable with for the balance. I don't usually work this way(never
actually), I just want to get these out so I don't have to move them.
Alright, let me know what you think. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 11-21
Chris,
I totally understand. Been trying to figure out how to work this for both of us
as well since this is so new for the both of us. Heres the thing, I will have
about 1000.00 tied up in PayPal tonight after my Super Pastel goes. I know I
can send you a 1000.00 for sure via PayPal, I will pay the fee (3%) even though
there shouldnt be one since it wont be a credit card purchase. If I do money
orders, the soonest I could send one out would be Wednesday since PayPal takes
forever to fund bank accts.
What I was thinking is if I do that for the first payment, I can send money
orders every two weeks, say from this past Friday for 500.00. That would take
care of this in 90 days or so. I would be willing to pay, say like 10%. It
would only be fair being that its a net 90 type of deal and thats probably what
most companies would charge me.
Let me know if that works for you or not. I can understand if it doesnt.
Regards,
Dean
Me on 11-21
Hey Dean,
Sounds good. Can you please confirm your shipping address for me?
Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 11-21
Chris,
Dean Stemple
2700 Poplar Ln
Norman, Okla. 73072
405.886.9378
Let me know if you need anything more.
Thanks,
Dean
Dean on 11-21
Chris,
Will you do me a favor when you bag them up... Will you seperate them by sex,
even if it means putting axanthic males with the pastel males and so forth just
so I can quickly get them prepped for the shop? I would greatly appreciate it.
Dean
Me on 11-21
Hey Dean,
Sure, that's no problem. Do you need paperwork on the hets or are you
going to make your own? I haven't made any up yet. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 11-21
Chris,
I will just make my own. I trust you among the many others regarding your
guarantee. Just do me a favor and somehow let me know which hets are in which
bags.
Dean
Dean on 11-21
Chris,
Sorry for the holdup. I am just waiting on the guy to pay me on the Super
Pastel then its going straight to you. Was supposed to have it done by now so I
dont know what his deal is.
Dean
Me on 11-22
Hey Dean,
It's all good. I'm going to send these out today. I can wait for a postal
money order if you don't mind paying that way. I had a slight error in my
ratios. 1 of the male boas was actually a female so you got a little bonus
there.
I won't be able to check my e-mail for a few days so if you need to reach
me, give me a call or shoot me a text. Alright Dean, thanks again and I'll
talk to you soon. -Chris
Dean on 11-22
Okay...
Chris,
Here is my number 405.886.9378 if you need it for anything.
Dean
Dean on 11-23
Chris,
I know you dont have access to emails at the moment but I wanted to inform you
that the packages have not arrived yet, 1PM cst. I just got off the phone with
FedEx (didnt give them too much info) to ask them when my packages will arrive
as they state that they are on the truck. I guess the truck broke down and they
had to get a "rental" truck to complete delivery. Anyhow, I made them aware
that we (you) will be filing a refund on the shipping rates. This was just to
give you a heads-up. I will follow up with you as soon as I can check out the
snakes.
Regards,
Dean
Me on 12-3
Hey Dean,
Sorry for the lack of communication. Moving sucks! I'm sorry that these
got there late. I'll call Fedex later today and see what they have to say.
Did everything arrive ok? How are they all doing? I'm not sure if I'll be
able to check this e-mail address anymore so you can e-mail me through my
site or at
chris@ahrensexotique.com . I can check that address from
anywhere. I should have internet up and running at the new house in another
week so hopefully I'll be able to be in better contact after that. Alright
Dean, thanks again and I'll talk to you soon. -Chris
Me on 12-3
Hey Dean,
I just got off the phone with Fedex. They state that the packages were
delayed due to weather and not elidgible for a refund so I guess that's all
there is to that. I just wanted to let you know. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 12-3
Hey Chris,
They are so full of it. They were in okc by 630am so on top of the weather, they still had a truck break down too. Anyhow, all of them arrived ok despite the shipping issues, which is no ones fault. I had no doubt that they would be fine regardless.
I will be sending you a money order this coming Monday, Tuesday at the latest so please email me your address that you want me to mail it to. Hope you had a great holiday
Regards
Dean
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 12-6
Hey Dean, My mailing address is...
Chris Ahrens
P.O.Box 515
Elfers, Fl. 34680
Hopefully I remembered your e-mail address right and you get this. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 12-9
Got it. Will send it out today.
Dean
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 12-17
Hey Dean,
I still haven't received that payment. Did you get a chance to get it sent out? Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 12-17
Hey Chris,
You should have received the first envelope by now. I sent it out last Friday. Let me so some research and find out what the holdup is when I get home. Also, I will be sending out 500-600 this Tuesday as well so let me know when you receive that one. The first one was for 900.00
Dean
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 12-18
Hey Dean,
That's weird. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks! -Chris
Dean on 12-18
Chris,
Not a problem. Hopefully it shows up I'm the their system somewhere.
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 12-21
Hey Dean,
Still nothing. Did you find out anything on your end? Thanks. -Chris
Dean on 12-21
All they have told me so far is that is hasn't been cashed yet. It is possible that I may have sent it to a wrong p.o box, from what they said or put the wrong zip code on it which might be delaying it. I plan on sending one out for 500.00 tomorrow evening and hopefully I can find out when I can get a re-issue on the 900.00 one.
Dean
Sent from my iPhone
Me on 12-30
Hey Dean,
I still haven't received any money orders. Where are we at on these? Thanks. -Chris
Me on 1-11
Dean,
Where you at? I e-mailed you and haven't heard back. I still haven't received either of these money orders. Please don't leave me in the dark on this. Let me know what's going on. Thanks. -Chris
That's it for the e-mails. Next will come a couple texts. I still have these saved on my phone so if anyone local wants to see them to verify, I'm cool with that. Here they are...
Me on 1-12
Hey Dean, This is Chris Ahrens. How's things going? I've been trying to e-mail you but I'm not getting any response that way. Maybe you're having computer issues? Where are we at with these money orders? It's been a month and I still haven't gotten any payments. Is everything ok? I'm starting to worry here. Please let me know what's going on. Thanks!
I then called Dean a couple times on 1-14 but no answer. Then...
Dean on 1-14
Chris not trying to avoid you and an working on rectifying the situation asap. Going through some family issues at the moment as well as a couple of other things so please give me a week or so to start making things right with you. So sorry for this
Me on 1-14
Dean, thanks for getting back to me. Communication is key. I'm the easiest person in the world to deal with. Just let me know what's going on and don't tell me something's on it's way if it's not. Sound good?
Dean on 1-14
Ill explain late7 but yes you are right
Me on 1-28
Hey Dean, any updates? You said to give you a week and it's been 2 weeks now. How is it coming?
So that's where we're at. No response to e-mails, texts, calls, smoke signals, whatever. Before anyone responds with "you should have never sent them without payment" Please understand, This isn't my first rodeo. I knew the risk. I took it and here we are. This is not me whining about getting ripped off. This is just an informative thread to let people know that Dean isn't as good a guy as his "Good guy" threads and his "BOI Good guy certification" would indicate. I have all the original e-mails if anyone wants them forwarded to them or again, if anyone is local, they can stop by and see them on my computer.
Dean Stemple Strictly Exotics BAD GUY!
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