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12-25-2010, 11:17 PM
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#741
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I was only given ONE page of the burm report... That's what I got from my vet was one page...
And the aspen was bought at NARBC... Here's a pic 2 days after the show when I put the aspen in there... Notice the brand new repti-rack cage I had gotten that weekend and the aspen... After that I removed the aspen and got rid of it
Brand new cages in front room...
Pic after added aspen that I bought at NARBC
After I noticed mites only a few days after that, I trashed the aspen and switched back to newspaper... Haven't used anything other than newspaper since then...
and no matter what, pets or whatever, they are still getting tested.
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12-25-2010, 11:22 PM
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You had mites on several occasions BEFORE that..I know in Feb 09, you posted a "mites" thread and you stated earlier that "in early 08" you had mites. There was another thread around this time discussing mites.
The issue isn't where they came from, Ashley...
It's already been established by Rachel's quarantine, Kyles warning, Elizabeth's shipping bag from you containing dead mites, and previous posts from you that you HAVE HAD CHRONIC ISSUES WITH MITES, and THE MITES IN THIS CASE CAME FROM YOU.
Doesn't matter where they came from before that.
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12-25-2010, 11:26 PM
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#743
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Ashley, you still have mites in your house, even if you cannot see them. If you did not, then Elizabeth AND Rachel would NOT have them. Period. One person getting them after buying from you is coincidental, but TWO people in the same time is not.
It doesn't matter HOW you got the mites. There's still an infestation going on somewhere in your home.
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12-25-2010, 11:33 PM
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#744
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I am very glad to see this htread may have stopped Ashley from at least selling snakes here and on RTB.com. This is at least a step in the right direction. Everytime she post on the BOI is seems her hole gets deeper. After the refunds are made in full and no more post for a year we will all have to see what happens. IMO Casperconstrictors has sunk it's own ship by not following the procedure they seem to offer to others. What a shame. There was a nice collection of animals until a person who wanted to be known very fast jumped in and screwed it all up. I believe most breeders started out very small and tuned there skills before moving up in their buisness. Hopefully if Ashley can learn from this it will educate other on what happens when you get in over your head without thinking at all.
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12-25-2010, 11:36 PM
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#745
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hboyles66
I am very glad to see this htread may have stopped Ashley from at least selling snakes here and on RTB.com. This is at least a step in the right direction. Everytime she post on the BOI is seems her hole gets deeper. After the refunds are made in full and no more post for a year we will all have to see what happens. IMO Casperconstrictors has sunk it's own ship by not following the procedure they seem to offer to others. What a shame. There was a nice collection of animals until a person who wanted to be known very fast jumped in and screwed it all up. I believe most breeders started out very small and tuned there skills before moving up in their buisness. Hopefully if Ashley can learn from this it will educate other on what happens when you get in over your head without thinking at all.
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Ditto. That's what others have tried to instill in her, but she never grasped it.
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12-25-2010, 11:37 PM
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75 pages in this thread and she seems like she might be catching on a little. I just wish she would own up to the mites as I agree with the others that mites are for sure in your collection. 2 people who bought snakes from you and both had mites. Mites generally are not found on just one animal when they are present. you would know thise if you where as smart as you come off being.
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12-25-2010, 11:38 PM
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#747
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I doubt she's learned anything, considering she has yet to commit to the fact she will not be breeding while any of these animals are still a part of her collection.
She'll test this year.
Then next year.
Then what? Are you going to test every year until the animals are dead, or until you think it is safe? It won't be. Not in a collection where IBD was confirmed.
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12-25-2010, 11:41 PM
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#748
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Did I not already say I was NOT going to breed? Yes, I did already say that... If I have to keep my snakes as pets for the rest of their lives, no matter how short or long, I will...
and I understand the fact that is is possible to miss inclusions even when tested... But how likely is it that it would be missed in EVERY ANIMAL?? Not very I would think...
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12-25-2010, 11:47 PM
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#749
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Ashley, are you going to be able to live with caring for 20+ animals until they die (if they remain asymptomatic) for 15-20 years? You cannot sell these animals when you tire of them because of the initial IBD report, you'd have to euthanize them to get them out of the collection. That's a lot to handle.
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12-25-2010, 11:50 PM
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#750
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My main point is that it has taken a lot to get Ashley to even admit to any wrong doing. There is proof of her lies and improper proceedures. I am glad to hear she will not be breeding but with how things have gone it is hard to believe her. I always judge on facts and the facts are you have mites and may have had IBD in your collection for awhile. You also stated that the original text on the BCL may not have been 100% correct which leads one to believe that there is somethiong wierd about that. If you read the bad guy thread on Mr. Dean Ashley was very straight forward about her QT proceedures and it has been shown that the BCL was not fully quarantined. The fact that she truely believed up until questioned about it, that the BCL had IBD she was still attending shows and putting others in danger for no good reason.
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