Experience with KINGSNAKE Website

Originally Posted by Mckenzie_river_reptiles

Is Jeff the owner?

Luc Cauthorn

Yes, but he would never post on this site.

Just to help out Paul Harb. When the Snows and the Snowglow was born I was informed of the breeding loans. So Paul is on the up and up. Them snakes are his.

Just incase anyone needed another person to back him up. I have never spoken to Paul either. But i know them snakes are KILLER!

I think once a site gets large enough to rival KS, changes might be made on KS. Until then, it is the largest classifed page for reptiles. There are alot of ads, and alot of people that frequent the site, to look at the ads. People want to pay their money, and some will beg to be allowed to pay their money. Jeff is in a good position.

Dave

Originally Posted by David Reid

I think once a site gets large enough to rival KS, changes might be made on KS. Until then, it is the largest classifed page for reptiles. There are alot of ads, and alot of people that frequent the site, to look at the ads. People want to pay their money, and some will beg to be allowed to pay their money. Jeff is in a good position.

Dave

It is not up to someone to build a site to rival KS....... Lots of sites are already out there. it takes th epeople to make the change.

Originally Posted by Wrongbeach

PS I HAVE AN AMAZING LAWYER FOR THIS...n/p

Why waste money on a lawyer since it has only been two weeks. Just call your credit card company and have them reverse the charges.

Originally Posted by shrap

Why waste money on a lawyer since it has only been two weeks. Just call your credit card company and have them reverse the charges.

Bingo! We have a winner ladies and gentleman.

Gary, name some sites other than Fauna, that are even remotely as well trafficed as KS.

It takes the people to make the change, sounds nice and cliche, but has no bite unless there is a true rival to KS.

I have made $1000 this month selling two snakes on KS. I am a small time breeder, without a website of my own. KS is almost a must for me. Until there are several huge sites, to rival KS, I have no choice but to pay my money and hope I do not get booted for some small print thing I had no clue that I did.

Fauna is a nice secondary site, but until there are three or four Faunas, KS will keep going about business as usual.

I am actually surprised that from the large number of people booted from KS, that nobody has tried to open up a rival site. I think Jeff should have a month long period where he allows people to voice their opinions without fear of being booted, and takes the critiques and uses them to better KS.

Originally Posted by David Reid

Gary, name some sites other than Fauna, that are even remotely as well trafficed as KS.

It takes the people to make the change, sounds nice and cliche, but has no bite unless there is a true rival to KS.

I have made $1000 this month selling two snakes on KS. I am a small time breeder, without a website of my own. KS is almost a must for me. Until there are several huge sites, to rival KS, I have no choice but to pay my money and hope I do not get booted for some small print thing I had no clue that I did.

Fauna is a nice secondary site, but until there are three or four Faunas, KS will keep going about business as usual.

I am actually surprised that from the large number of people booted from KS, that nobody has tried to open up a rival site. I think Jeff should have a month long period where he allows people to voice their opinions without fear of being booted, and takes the critiques and uses them to better KS.

That will never happen! I'm sure he(Jeff B) does not want to hear that their are problems with his business. As long as the money is still rolling in it's business as usual. Just MHO.

I have ads pulled myself for violation their TOS some with explanation others with none.

Louie Chavez

Originally Posted by Mckenzie_river_reptiles

What that is ridiculous. They have so many stupid rules! Why can't you mention anything about the BOI!

Take your pick of possible reasons for why they don't allow it:

# Posting "discussion" messages or messages of any nature that are not specifically advertisements for products, animals or services, is prohibited, and the post will be removed.

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Originally Posted by Mckenzie_river_reptiles

Just a few days ago they pulled one of my ads that was in the for sale section. I had stated in my add that I was open to trades for other geckos.

KS pulled it and told me that I can only say I am open to trades, but not what type of trades or what I am looking for!???

Pretty clear. You said you listed what you were up for trading and you can't do that.

# Trade Ads - No "trade" ads are allowed in the sale-type classified sections. We have classified sections for these and they need to be placed there. You may mention in a sales ad that you will accept trades, but if you list what you want to trade in the ad, the ad will be removed.

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Originally Posted by DD Reptiles

They have also deleted my ads for things as picky as mentioning a show I was attending where the animals could be picked up at.

# Event Referencing - Referencing upcoming "Events" in the subject heading, name field or location field, in ads is prohibited. You may mention in the body of an ad that you will be at an upcoming event, but it cannot be the focus of the ad itself. The exception to this is if you are posting an event-only ad in the "Events" classified section.

I'm guessing you mentioned the show in the wrong place or put too much emphasis on it within the ad itself.

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Originally Posted by Wrongbeach

Do you have a copy of the email they sent to you when they pulled it? I cant imagine its in their TOS that they can pull ads if they feel it is below market price...thats criminal...Im going to have to read that TOS very carefully....keep them coming everyone....thks..

If I remember correctly, there was NO price fixing involved. That general fisaco was when a few people were attempting to sell ball pythons "by the gram" and not giving an actual price for the animals in question. It's kind of common sense that advertising animals "by the gram" when the weight of that animal is constantly shifting on a day to day basis is only going to open up the playing field for scammers and KS was not having any of it. The sellers got in a snit about it.

# All ads must have a realistic price or price range listed.

Originally Posted by David Reid

I am actually surprised that from the large number of people booted from KS, that nobody has tried to open up a rival site. I think Jeff should have a month long period where he allows people to voice their opinions without fear of being booted, and takes the critiques and uses them to better KS.

http://market.kingsnake.com/tos.php#12

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