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12-27-2016, 09:30 AM
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#241
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Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...
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12-27-2016, 09:43 AM
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#242
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Originally Posted by hognose1
Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...
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woah.....
this is what Mr Park wrote in this thread
"Originally Posted by typherp View Post
A good friend sent me a brief message while I was in the plane getting ready to takeoff, headed home to Chicago. The message simply said in entirety as follows:
"Hey Ty,
Don't respond to the fauna BOI. She's trying to take advantage of you, plain and simple."
This was the first I heard of a recent post on FaunaClassifieds as I haven't been active on that site for a while now.
I have no time to read all the comments or even the initial complaint made by Michelle as I rather spend my valuable time during this precious season with my family and friends. It's is just a speck of irritation on my glass-is-always-full-life.
When IRCF (International Reptile Conservation Foundation) was having difficulty with it's fund raising efforts to help save some of the critically endangered iguanas, I wanted to step up and help. After couple days of thinking, I decided that the best way for me to help them right away was to run a raffle for one of my most desired species (albino tegu) that would be produced in 2016. At this point in the year, I was mostly sold out of animals that I produced in 2015 and I was also tapped out on my giving to reptile related causes, which exceeded $50,000 in 2015.
I ran the idea by IRCF, which is a registered non-profit, and they agreed that we should give it a try. The idea was for me to donate 2 albino tegus to raffle off to raise funds. In addition, I also donated a third albino tegu to a donor who wanted to donate $2500 for one albino tegu---instead of participating in a raffle. We collectively raised more than $7500 (it might be closer to $9000.00 but I can't remember the exact figure at the moment) for IRCF.
What I forgot or didn't think about at the time of the raffle was that there are two types of albino tegu: one is typical albino which are T- albino and the other is highly priced T+ or Purple albino tegu. These were produced by breeding heterozygous blue tegus, so the outcome of which albino or how many by looking at the parents or the eggs are useless. I typically sell my T- albino blue Tegu's for $2500 and T+/purple albino blue tegus for $5000. In 2015, most of my albinos were T- with only two being hatched as T+, which I kept as future breeders. That result was what I was expecting in 2016 but it didn't turn out that way---all the albino tegus I produced were, to my surprise, T+ albinos. At this point, I decided to tell Michelle and others that, although I produced albino tegus, they were all expensive type and that I would buy 3 normal T- tegus from a friend to send to them. I could have just bought the tegus from a friend and shipped them without them knowing but I wanted to be honest and open. The other two winner and buyer was more than happy and gracious but not Michelle. She wanted the $3000 instead because "I didn't produce albino tegu"---which I clearly did. If she approached me and asked for money because she needed the money due to her financial need, I would have most likely to helped her by sending her the money but I felt that she was rather being greedy instead. At this point she started to inundate me with questions which I did not want to answer knowing what kind of person she was and that anything I say might be twisted by her to her advantage, so my answer to her was none or very short. I decided also that I would send her the tegu that I produced (T+ albino) since her contention was that she wanted one that I produced and not by someone else, but I didn't communicate that with her to the end because I wanted to see what kind of person she was and she was greedy to the end. I ask for her address twice so that I could ship her the tegu but she refused each time. After the second refusal, I decided to auction off the tegu I was going to ship her to raise more money for IRCF, which we did to the tune of more than $5000.
Soon I received a registered letter informing me of a lawsuit filed by her in MA. After much thought, I hired an attorney to take care of the lawsuit and fight her claims in court. We decided to ask for change of venue as it would be difficult/inconvenient for me to attend this court case and because the farm is in FL. After few back and forth filing amendments, my attorney set up a phone session with magistrate judge on Dec. 13. At this meeting, she asked for a tegu but I refused because I didn't think she deserved it and that tegu I saved for her was auction off already. I offered her $400 to reimburse her for the raffle tickets she purchase. The next court date is in February and I'll let the judge decide what is right. All I wanted to do was to help the animals in desperate need. In the future, I would still try to help animals in need but with caution. If I see a suffering dog in an enclosed car, I am still going to break the "law" and damage someone's property.
I am currently dictating this response in flight so that once at home, I would not waste my valuable time on this. This will be my one and only post. I'll let others judge me for my actions positive or negative. This time of the year is great and fun time for me and I wish everyone the same---great holiday season filled with love of family and friendship. Here's looking at 2017 with open arms and open hearts.
Ty
so miss Amanda Martinez please tell me where I have lied please?
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12-27-2016, 10:07 AM
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#243
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Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.
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12-27-2016, 10:16 AM
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#244
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Originally Posted by Casey Hulse
Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.
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WHAT?
Did you even READ any of this thread?
All I see is somebody who made the rules of the raffle and then broke them and then his own arrogance led tho this BOI thread......
Only thing I can say so far that is halfway good about Ty is that he said he was only going to make one post....at least so far he has kept his word on that ......
His "circle of friends" have absolutely no bearing on the meat of this thread at all, in fact they are more damning of his attitude to this problem if anything!
You really need to go and read his single post and tell us all that you feel that is a fair response to this mess.
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12-27-2016, 10:46 AM
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#245
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Let me clarify my previous response a little more as I was pretty shocked and stunned when I read that post!
I am not about to state that Ty has not done many good deeds previously and been a great supported of endangered wildlife etc etc.
However we try to deal with facts germaine to the current situation here in the BOI and right now things do not look good at all for Ty!
I have read and reread the entire thread from its inception and I am in no doubt at all that Ty is clearly in the wrong AND his own smug arrogance has led to this thread existing and he may find that 3k would have been a VERY small price to pay for the possible ramifications of his actions.
I have no desire to enter in any arguements or trash talk with other posters but I fail to see how any other conclusion is possible from the information we have been presented with so far.
If Ty has something more to add I am sure we would be delighted but so far he seems to believe one condescending post is a good enough defense on his part.
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12-27-2016, 12:57 PM
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#246
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Originally Posted by Casey Hulse
Although I do not know either party, I felt that I had to post my opinion.
I have been following Ty on FB for a while, and have been very impressed by what I feel is a genuine concern for the wildlife that he works with,many species are quite threatened in the wild for a number of reasons. Then I notice his "circle of friends" many of them I have known for years as being pioneers in habitat restoration and work with critically endangered specie of turtle and iguana. In particular Rick Hudson from the Fort Worth Zoo and Turtle Survival Alliance. I do not know Mr. Parks, but if he is friends with Rick Hudson, then he is "good people" in my book.
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.
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So because he donates to charity that excuses him from scamming people and running illegal raffles?
Very surprised to see this post from you Casey. You, at one point many years ago were one of my favorite people to do business with.
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12-27-2016, 01:08 PM
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#247
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Surely there must be an updated form, I can't find it. Can y'all who are search experts help please?
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12-27-2016, 01:12 PM
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#248
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Originally Posted by Lucille
Surely there must be an updated form, I can't find it. Can y'all who are search experts help please?
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Search in AZ not CA.
IANA lawyer but I have been serving as the treasurer for a 501c3 organization for the past few years. We've also held raffles, we push a lot more than $50k per year through our books, and we've been audited (which was not fun).
After looking over the information that has come to light over the last few days I don't believe that legally the OP has a valid lawsuit against Ty Parks. The people who participated in the raffle tickets paid the IRCF, not Ty, for their tickets. The OP's contract is with the IRCF and the IRCF owes her the prize (either the albino tegu produced by Ty or $3,000 cash); Ty merely offered to donate the prize(s) to be awarded to the IRCF. If he hasn't done that then that's between the IRCF and Ty.
The IRCF messed up by offering as raffle prizes - the albino tegus - that Ty hadn't yet produced. This isn't the first time I've seen people get into a pickle because the results of a clutch were not as expected. I'm a bit surprised that no one at the IRCF suggested waiting until the eggs hatched out before announcing the raffle, as a lot can go wrong with clutches.
So... the raffle is advertised, tickets are sold, the drawing is held, winners are publically announced and notified - and months later one of the winners hasn't received her prize and is understandably upset. I don't believe the IRCF can simply return the $400 she paid for tickets and call it even under current gaming laws by claiming that the tegu she won never existed. That's a large legal loophole that would let any charity hold a raffle but never have to give away a prize. Also, the $3,000 cash prize should exist.
While Ty was very well-meaning with his donation for the raffle, his actions afterward have put the IRCF in a rather precarious position, especially if this raffle wasn't registered with the state of AZ. The IRCF board can't ignore the problem and say it's between the OP and Ty, because it's not, and the OP could cause the IRCF a lot more than $3,000 worth of trouble if she wanted to right by filing a consumer fraud complaint with the state.
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12-27-2016, 01:21 PM
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#249
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Originally Posted by bcr229
The IRCF board can't ignore the problem and say it's between the OP and Ty, because it's not, and the OP could cause the IRCF a lot more than $3,000 worth of trouble if she wanted to right by filing a consumer fraud complaint with the state.
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I believe the OP is already talking to various people in AZ including a letter to the IRCF.
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12-27-2016, 01:25 PM
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#250
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Originally Posted by hognose1
Your a POS liar...I hope Mr. Ty Park sues you for this post...
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Originally Posted by Casey Hulse
I wish this could have been resolved without it going this far, because frankly, all I see is a bunch of people trying to drag a good man through the mud.
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I was wondering how long it would take for more of the groupies to put in an appearance. I'm not sure how someone could even make such posts after having had the decency to do the reading necessary to come to an informed decision. I have to surmise that you either didn't feel the need to do so; or you decided that protecting the name of a once-good man is more important than trying to see his wrong righted. Either way, you're just
If Ty Park is covered in mud, it's simply because he started flinging it at the OP and his efforts ultimately backfired once the situation was brought here, where most of us are much more interested in helping victims than we are in protecting those who've actually done the victimizing. Gotta love seeing how easily some can set integrity aside when it may not be a matter of convenience; when those who've clearly wronged another don't happen to be some faceless, unknown villain who's easily condemned without some personal cost.
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