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Old 06-05-2005, 01:06 AM   #1
Raymond
ringneck snake

Hello, I have a ringneck snake that came from Kansas that a friend decided to give me, I wanted to sell it but was informed that it is illegal to sell this snake. Was wondering is it that no ringneck snake can be sold or just ones found in California? I live in CA and would like to know, I definetly don't want to do anything illegal so if anyone can help it would make a big difference.
Thanks for reading, L.Raymond
 
Old 06-05-2005, 02:21 AM   #2
Dennis Hultman
I do believe last time I checked they are not covered under the Native Propagation Permit. You cannot sell, buy, or trade.
I do believe this applies to importing them from another state as well.
 
Old 06-05-2005, 04:02 AM   #3
reptilebreeder
To add to Dennis' statement, even if a snake is covered (allowed to breed, sell) under the propogation permit, if it was wild caught you still can't sell (including trade), import, or export it, plus there is a possession limit of two* generally speaking.

Except as otherwise prohibited (Crocodilains, all non-native venomous, Snapping Turtles.....several others) by state or federal laws, non native reptiles and amphib may be imported, exported, possessed, propogated, purchased, sold, without permit. (CAR 14 5-40f).

Since it is a different Subspecies you technically** should be able to sell or buy your non-native Ringneck.

*There are otherwise specified limits for certain herps. Limit of one for CA mountain Kingsnakes (none from certain localities), Limit of four CA kings and Gophers, etc, etc.
** In Kansas it is unlawful to take any native wildlife for sale, exchange, etc, so even though CA may not regulate it's sale, you could be in violation of a federal law (I don't think it's under cites, maybe it's the Lacey act)which says you can't circumvent a states law by taking it across state lines and violating that states law in the new state, or something to that effect.

Hope that helps, I know it is kind of complicated, but it seems the laws effecting us herpers always are. I stopped breeding CA natives a couple years ago, so I may not be current with my info. If my information is outdated or wrong, somebody post clarification.
 
Old 06-05-2005, 11:18 AM   #4
Raymond
Thanks for your help, was unsure since I've seen other people selling them.
Thanks again, L.Raymond
 
Old 06-05-2005, 12:56 PM   #5
old guy
Kansas resident here and will add

ANY commercialization of native species are illegal without proper permits and collecting from out of staters/non-resients is illegal without the hunting license and even THEN could violate the Lacey act if transported out of state and definitely if any commercial activity is applied. The person that collected it could be in trouble as well as anybody afterwords.
 
Old 11-09-2005, 04:10 PM   #6
missmymark
In the state of Ohio with a propagating license you can keep up to 4 wild caught animal (rept. or amph)
or an unlimited number of animals captively produced or legally obtained from out of state, with proper documentation.....
I am reading this from the form I printed from the ohio DNR Div of Wildlife
 

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