Ian Curtis - Stolen African House Snakes

It's ridiculous just how long it takes for the system to work!

How much money in lawyer fees and court costs is Ian going to spend before he realizes that it would have been easier to tell the truth, give the snakes back or compensate her for his screw up?

I am really really hoping he doesn't just try and move the snakes underground.
(If indeed he does still posses them!)

Originally Posted by anoles

How much money in lawyer fees and court costs is Ian going to spend before he realizes that it would have been easier to tell the truth, give the snakes back or compensate her for his screw up?

Some people are just that hard headed.

So, no closure on this issue so far? The wheels of justice turn slowly here in the Land of the Free.

I saw the OP is selling her adult pair of house snakes. I sure hope this doesnt mean she lost all hope and giving up on the hobby. I hope this all got worked out

Originally Posted by EXCLUSIVELY EXOTICS

I saw the OP is selling her adult pair of house snakes. I sure hope this doesnt mean she lost all hope and giving up on the hobby. I hope this all got worked out

Can you post a screen shot of that? So it's here permanently?

And has anyone told Sarah he has her snakes up for sale?

Originally Posted by Magic

Can you post a screen shot of that? So it's here permanently?

And has anyone told Sarah he has her snakes up for sale?

Crap. I read that wrong! I thought he was selling her snakes--my eyes get tired after 18 hours!!!

That makes me sad that she is selling her collection off!

Read this entire thread over the past couple of days. It makes me sick to my stomach as a young herper new to the industry to see that there are people like this in the reptile world.

I will also mention that if it hasn't already been pursued yet, it is worth a try to talk to the previous phone company about seeing if they still have the texts between Ian's and Sarah's phone number in their system. I've seen it done before for numbers still on a company's plan but I know not if they can get old numbers from it. There are records of texts being sent, and usually you can also get what was said. Sarah, if your old phone company still has the dialogue between you two about the breeding loan it would certainly help your case be even stronger. As I have understood it, you lost the texts about the terms of the breeding loan when you switched service providers.

I wish the very best of luck to you, Sarah. I hope Ian gets what's coming to him, and that you can get some closure on this mess. Most of all I hope that your beloved snakes are still alive and well, and that you will be able to get them back, as well as anything you are owed. I know if I were in your shoes I would be struggling, and I don't know if I would have been able to keep my cool as well as you did.

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to let you all know again how much I appreciate you and your support throughout this entire ordeal. It has been nothing short of frustrating since Ian decided that he'd rather lie than come forward with my snakes and/or the truth. And hopefully this thread will continue to warn off anyone considering any transactions with him.

Yes, I'm still in the process of pursuing a case against Ian for the theft of my snakes. Whether they are still alive or in Ian's possession...well, only Ian knows for sure. But my hopes are not high in this regard.

If anyone out there has *any* idea, though, I'd really appreciate knowing. I think my actions here have represented me as a reasonable individual, and of course if Ian sold my snakes I'm not about to hold the buyers responsible. (I'm sure he'd be just as honest with them as he was with me.) So if anyone out there has a clue as to the whereabouts of my snakes, I'd really appreciate it.

And yes, I'm selling my Mentalis pair. After 4+ years of growing them up into beautiful adults, I was looking forward to breeding them one day. But losing virtually the other two thirds of the projects I took pride in and was looking forward to pursuing as an AHS keeper has been a hard hit to take. Every time I look at this pair I am reminded that they are all I have left, thanks to Ian. While it is good fuel for the fire, so to speak, as I seek justice in this matter...Its not a very happy/healthy state of mind to be swept up into every time I'm feeding/cleaning/caretaking. So, if there is some one out there who can truly enjoy this pair of beautiful snakes for a reasonable price, I'm willing to let them go to the right home.