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Old 09-11-2018, 11:38 PM   #1
Karma Kritters
Help with Morph ID

Hello everyone. I am still trying to get a grasp on these ball python morphs. What I have here is the result of breeding my Banana to an Orange dream enchi. I am going to post two pictures of each. I do not see Banana in any of them. The female was raised here from a baby and this was her first breeding so no retained sperm just bad odds? What I am trying to figure out is who is Orange dream and if there is anything else in here.
Thanks in advance.
Sam
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:40 PM   #2
Karma Kritters
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:31 AM   #3
chrisis697
Hey sam, nice babies. I havent seen many baby orange dreams but I will give u my thoughts.
1. OD enchi
2. Normal
3. OD enchi
4. OD
5. Poss OD
6. Poss OD
7. Poss OD
Hope some more ppl respond for ya. Good luck
Chris
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:41 AM   #4
Robert Walker
This is a real hard one for me. If I'm 100% honest, sorry, you had some really bad genetic outcome luck and the OD and Enchi genes are very low expression to begin with. Zero bananas, yikes. If I had to guess, one of the parents has Pastel in them. Can you post pictures of the parents please?

1. PASTEL or PASTEL OD
2. NORMAL
3. PASTEL or PASTEL OD
4. ENCHI OD (100%)
5. NORMAL
6. NORMAL
7. POSSIBLE ENCHI

I'm only certain on #4, the rest are really toss ups.
 
Old 09-12-2018, 07:58 AM   #5
Karma Kritters
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get pictures of the parents today. I am new to the Ball python market as I have always focused on colubrids. So far this year I have had several snakes pop up that I did not expect. I am suspecting that several of our snakes have extra genes in them.
This clutch does seem to be bad odds. My other clutch of the same male to her sister only gave me four eggs with one being a Banana Orange dream. You gotta love playing the odds.
Sam
 
Old 09-12-2018, 07:59 AM   #6
Karma Kritters
One of my favorite clutches from this year. Orange Ghost Champagne X Orange Ghost Black Pastel.
 
Old 09-12-2018, 08:00 AM   #7
chrisis697
I agree with Robert on #4, I didn't pic up on the banding that enchi influences. Also thought 1 & 3 looked pastelish, but pastel wasnt mentioned in the parents. Wasn't sure how variable the OD enchis were.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 09:35 PM   #8
Karma Kritters
Sire

Dam

It's been a crazy few weeks but here are pictures of the parents to the babies.
Sam
 

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