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Old 01-18-2019, 09:47 PM   #1
blichtenhan
2017 and 2018 Silverleaf Kisatchie Ratsnakes

+I have some surplus Silverleaf Kisatchies, and a few het silverleafs, and a few that are possible het for BOTH silverleaf and anery. I have some from 2017 and 2018.

I would prefer to trade for some hognose snakes, scaleless corn genes, or some palmetto corns or hets. Please contact me for questions/thoughts/offers. My current snake room is very small, so I cannot entertain offers for large snakes at this time. The best way to reach me is email, lakewaymedical@hotmail.com, and give me a few days to get back to you.
I can send photos of individual snakes, as there is some uniqueness to each snake, head patterns, lighter/darker.
I have more information on the history of the silverleaf and anery Kisatchie genes in the information below. Both genes are unique to Kisatchie Ratsnakes.

Thanks for your interest, Brad Lichtenhan


The Silverleaf female, first picturebelow, is the original wild caught female from east Texas in 2006. The other ones pictured are all from 2015 or 2016.



The silverleaf mutation was discovered in a wild caught snake about 10 years ago by Bill Dickens, a collector from College Station. This is a recessive gene to the wild type. KJ Lodrigue proved it out over the next few years and sold some Silverleafs, but there are very few still around.
He passed the project on to Graham Criglow, who worked with a pair of hets for a few years, producing some baby silverleafs, but he sold very few.
He passed this pair of hets on to me four years ago, along with an extra het male --- these snakes are probably 2008 offspring. I all ready had a male het "black" and het silverleaf that was produced by KJ; Mike Leidner had it for a few years, he passed it on to me back in 2010.
Then I was able to find an adult female Silverleaf that Gregg Feaster had/has, and he sent it to me on a breeding loan 5 years ago. So with that group of snakes, plus 2 other het females I grew up from 2014, a limited number of silverleaf babies were produced in 2016, along with some hets and possible hets.


The only other mutation currently known for Kisatchies is a "black" form, a type of anerythrism, that is a Kisatchie mutation, it is not found in cornsnakes and was not "stolen" from cornsnakes, but is unique to Kisatchies. There may be some "black" Kisatchies being produced in Europe, and a few people are working with them in the US. I had one 8 years ago, and the neat thing about them is they have no yellow at all, they stay black and silver/grey.

Below is a description of Kisatchies in general from Don Soderberg's web page at South Mountain Reptiles.

"The hobby name, Kisatchie, was unofficially assigned to the newest Ratsnake species to be described in the United States, Panterophis slowinskii, reportedly because the "holotype" was collected near Kisatchie National Forest in Louisiana. This doesn't mean that it was the first of its kind to be captured, because I was catching lots of these in 1971 in East Texas and Western Louisiana. The common name assigned when this species was described is Slowinski's Corn Snake, but I personally don't use that name because is contains the word CORN, and this is officially NOT a corn snake. In 2002, Frank T. Burbrink presented sufficient evidence to establish that this snake, Elaphe slowinskii (now, Pantherophis slowinskii), found between the natural ranges of Corn Snakes, Pantherophis guttatus and Great Plains Rat Snakes (aka: Emory's Rat Snakes) was sufficiently dissimilar to those species to warrant distinct species status. Surely this species originated from the ancient natural intergradation of Corn Snakes and Emory's Rat Snakes? In order to preserve their genome in captive specimens, since this snake is soundly dissimilar to those two founding species we hope breeders will resist crossing Kisatchies with Corns or Emory's Rat Snakes. One thing I noticed when first photographing Kisatchies over a decade ago was that no matter how I filtered my strobes with opaque covers, the light heavily bounced back from these snakes. Obviously, unlike their Corn and Emory's cousins, Kisatchies have more iridophores in their epidermis".



Here is a link to KJ's discussion of these morphs from several years ago.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=104745
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see link for detailed description of species on Don Soderbers page, https://cornsnake.net/index.php?opti...id=252&lang=en
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:05 AM   #2
Rfsheajr
Price?
 
Old 01-19-2019, 12:55 AM   #3
Eric Zukowski
Beautiful snakes, and great info
 
Old 01-19-2019, 11:11 AM   #4
nolareptiles
Awesome project!!! What price are you asking for these?

Thanks!
Kenny Lachney
504-957-0499


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Old 01-19-2019, 11:31 AM   #5
blichtenhan
Thank you for the comments. It has been a fun project. The first time I saw the picture of that first silverleaf, I thought it was one of the best looking snakes I had ever seen, and had to have one.
I had a pair from KJ from the first clutch he ever produced, but then we moved, and I had to give them back to him until I could start my collection again a few years later.

Please contact me at lakewaymedical@hotmail.com for any questions, thanks
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:42 AM   #6
Insomniac101
Brad, can you post pricing please, for those not able to offer trades?

Thanks!
 
Old 01-19-2019, 11:47 AM   #7
geckos70
Hi Brad,
What is your pricing on these guys?
Thanks,
Michael
 
Old 01-19-2019, 03:27 PM   #8
blichtenhan
silverleafs

Private messages sent regarding pricing.

My best contact info is email, lakewaymedical@hotmail.com, thanks,
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