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Old 11-17-2003, 09:14 AM   #1
Mike Panic
Warning Warning Warning ***eliteherps35@aol.com ***must Read***

I want to share this with you guys so no one get ripped off.

I have an ad on Kingsnake for Lavenders wanted. A few days ago I received an email from a person named Jacob from crazy corn morphs. His email addy is Eliteherps35@aol.com

Here is a pasted copy of his first email.........
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Thanks for responding friend. What are you asking for the 00 lavender pair
who are het for stripe/motley? Also what do you want for the pewters.
Thanks. Mike---- Original Message -----


From: <Eliteherps35@aol.com>
To: <corns@optonline.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:12 PM
Subject: Message about: FOLLOWING CORNS WANTED


> I HAVE.1 OPAL CB'01 1.1 LAVENDER CB'00 100% DBL HET STRIPE AND HURRICANE
MOTLEY, AND .1 LAVENDER STRIPE CB LATE '01. MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL SEND
PICS.I ALSO HAVE 2.2 PEWTER(PROVEN) AND 2.3 BLOODREDS(PROVEN)AND 2.2 SNOW
STRIPES AND 2.2 BLIZZARDS.
>
>
> THANKS,
> J.R. CRAZY CORN MORPHS
>
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> Click on (or cut and paste into you browser's
> location window) the URL below to view the ad that
> this message is in response to.
>
> http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=158089&cat=6
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> This message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in user.
>
> Sent 09:12 PM, Nov 15th, 2003 from I.P. Address 205.188.208.42
>
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Ok, no problem. I figured I havent heard the name but so what. Because of the animals he has for sale I assume he's a little out of my leage so I ask him how much for the Lavenders het for motley/stripe and the Pewters. He emails me back with this email........


FOR 1.1 LAVENDER $300 FOR 1.1 PEWTER $350 1.1 BLOODRED $200 .1 '02 LAVENDER STRIPE $150. WILL CONSIDER TRADES ON WHITE-SIDED BLACK RAT(MUST BE BREEDER SIZED)OR HETS. EVEN LICORISE STICK BLACK RATS.

JACOB

Obviously there is something immediately wrong with this picture as there is no Lavender stripe for $150.00(especially yearlings) and adult Lavenders het for Motley arent going to cost $300.00

He send me photos of bloodreds, a pewter, a lavender and a Lavender stripe hatchling. I immediately know I have seen the photo of the Lavender stripe before. There just arent that many around. Then, as I'm looking at the photo of the alleged Lavender female het for Motley, I notice its in fact a Type "A" Anerythristic Bloodred not a Lavender at all. As I look more closely, I think, man that snake looks familiar as well. Well, let me tell you why....ITS MY FRIGGIN SNAKE!!!!!!!!!! This guy sent me a photo of my own snake and isnt even smart enough to know its not a Lavender. Then I realize where I saw the lavender stripe photo, its either Walter Smiths or Don Soderbergs.


Unfortunately I let my temper get the better of me and told him good try you $@#@$#$ rather than baiting him in and getting his contact info. I also erased the photos. I will try to recover them. If anyone deals with this guy, BEWARE!!!! Someone who doesnt know Corns that well could get ripped off. If anyone is interested in finding out about the photos, drop me an email. I will try to recover them and forward them to you at your request. Thanks and be careful. Thats why its better to buy from someone reputable. And up until to now, I wasnt sure If the BOI was a great thing but the bottom line is people have a right to know.

Fraternally, Mike Panichi
 
Old 11-17-2003, 03:38 PM   #2
Carlos
Hey Mike, I got the same e-mail, as you know I have a wanted ad too and this guy e-mail me with a bunch of pictures including one with the title " Lavender Art". He never get back to me as soon I ask him for his full contact info including his phone number. I ask him that if he really have all those corns available to give me a call to close a deal in all of them, no call and no more e-mails. Carlos Lahitte
 
Old 11-17-2003, 04:19 PM   #3
gmherps
What an idiot!
 
Old 11-17-2003, 04:53 PM   #4
snakegirl
is crazy corn morphs even a legit place? i looked up the profile for this dude on aol and he has no profile.just wondering if it isn't jeremy stark back at it.
 
Old 11-18-2003, 12:20 AM   #5
R Reptile Ranch
He emailed me with HIGHEND Hondurans

This is the email I received from this person:

Subj: Message about: HYPO AND HET HYPO'S READY TO GO
Date: 11/15/2003 7:05:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Eliteherps35@aol.com
To: rreptileranch@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)



HI,
I HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL TANGERINE(NOT TRI-COLOR)ALBINO BREEDERS(2.2)ALOG WITH 3.3 VAN.PATTERN HYPOS(PROVEN),1.1 SUPER HYPOS,2.2 ALBINO(TRI-COLORS)%100 HET ANERY AND 1.2 ANERY HET ALBINO PROVEN(THE ALBINO HETS CROSSED TO THE ANERY HETS PRODUCE SNOW!)IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THESE PLEASE LET ME KNOW I NEED THE ROOM FOR RETIC AND BOA PROJECTS.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME,
J.R. CORN SNAKE INC.

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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=161827&cat=6


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Sent 09:04 PM, Nov 15th, 2003 from I.P. Address 205.188.208.42


He seems to have moved from high end corns to high end hondurans.

I'm not posting a bad guy post but I am glad that I saw this post because I was seriously thinking of trading some of my high end corn breeders and yearlings to this guy (about $2000 worth). He sent me about 10 pictures of these snakes and reading this who knows whos pictures these really are.

If anyone would like to see these pictures email me.

Thanks,
 
Old 11-18-2003, 12:21 AM   #6
R Reptile Ranch
BTW He responded to my trade ad.

T
 
Old 11-18-2003, 06:23 PM   #7
Mike Panic
Yeah Carlos, this guy is a scammer and I hope no one send hims cash. What a clown. This is the type of guy who really ruins the entire trust thing. I mean how can you send a thousand dollars to someone you dont know for snakes if there are thieves like this fool around. I hope all is well Carlos, hows the collection by the way? Later. Mike P
 
Old 11-18-2003, 06:45 PM   #8
Carlos
Mike ..Heah. I notice that something is wrong when he e-mail me the pictures and tell me that the will wholesale all of them. Look like he was desperado to got some one. I glad you don't get screw either. I always ask for a phone # and send the money after I talk with the seller and have the full info . Man A lot of project for next year, working my ..... big time to have all of them ready. Take care.Carlos
 
Old 11-19-2003, 12:22 PM   #9
R Reptile Ranch
Mike p and or anyone who had deal's with this guy, here is the info he gave me to send my snakes to.

Jacob(j.r corn snake inc)
1511 s.evanston
independence mo 64052
phone 816-833-1184

let me know what happen's with this.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 12:37 PM   #10
HerpVenue
That number is a cell phone

But here is the information on that address

Moore, Patricia
1511 S Evanston Ave
Independence, MO 64052
(816) 833-1302
 

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