Jerry Tubbs

As ken said...
its kind of hard to pay someone when the want changes from time to time[ not in those exact words]
So what will happen now........Hmmmmmmm......lets see now..
Jerry pays Winston ....Winston wanted snakes instead of money
winston gets mad and comes here again......More J T drama over nothing
Name of new soap
As The Deal Changes
And Winston my apologies on your spelling

WOAH Jerry never paid me anything and I didn't want the snake anymore I just want the money back. Jerry stop making up rumors about me and how the #### are you able to afford to go to Tampa and do the show while not paying me back. and if anyone wants e mails that Jerry has send to me saying he will pay me back but never did just e mail me and I'll e mail you the conversation we had with no words edited. Hey Jerry you better not show your face at the Tampa show without bring my money because I will bring an attonery down there if I have to and I'll be at the show anyways. and Stop SPREADING RUMORS....(that is about all your good for). Well See you at the Show JT.

Yeah the year is 2000 and money order was on  July 20th  thursday because that is the same day I mailed out teh money order. I know because it was my birthday/allowence money. I tried to call couple times around the 25-27 no answer and no e mail written back.

Thanx

Winston

Dave,

      I for one vouched for Jerry many of times on here, and was in no way forced, or paid to do so.  Not even given a price break!  I've bought from Jerry before and have been very pleased with what I purchased.  In my book he's a great guy, and will do business with him in the future.

Great I am glad that you have had these good deals with him !! But I know as you do that you are one of the the few

The one thing that I would like to see here is either Jerry or Winston show proof that the other one is lying about when this deal started. It should be easy for the one telling the truth to do.

Bobby Douglass

I would like to see that as well Bobby. We can play this game of he said/he said until the cows come home, but it will be in the best interest of whomever has the solid proof to post it.

Even if you don't have a camera or scanner, you can go toKinko's, Speedy, or any other copy shop, and get the receipt, airbill, or what have you scanned to a floppy disk. The image can then be uploaded to a free image hosting site such as webshots, and a link to it posted here.

Winston- you claim to have a receipt? Well, here's a chance to silence those of us whho doubt the time frame. If proven wrong, I'll be one of the first to apologize.

Jerry, you say you have an airbill for the first shipment that you had sent to Winston? Here's your chance.

Jerry have not sned me any snake for the 215 dollars. I don't have a scanner so I can't provid any recipte on the web page. but I will post the e mails here and now oh yeah sorry about teh date it is july 2001 sorry I did get taht mixed up but it seemed so long

1st e mail
Subj:  Re: (no subject)
Date: &nbsp;7/2/01 2<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5:35 AM !!!First Boot!!!
From: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp;DragonLD89


I CANT BELIEAVE THIS I HAD A CHANCE TO SELL ALL THEM TODAY............. WHAT BOUT IF YOU SEND THE 215 THEN YOU OWE ME THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY .......LET ME KNOW ASAP THANKS

then I asked for moeny order back after I send it to him ( I couldn't stop the payment of the money order because it have not been 10 days) I send the money order out on July 12th instead of the 20 somethign I posted before sorry about the mix up I wasn't wearing my glasses

Subj: &nbsp;Re: please e mail me back
Date: &nbsp;7/16/01 4:50:30 PM !!!First Boot!!!
From: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp;DragonLD89


Like I said when the money order clears my bank ,Iwill send your money back to you.I'm not gonna send it back today and then it not clear becasuse you stopped payment as you said you was gonna do...............

Then.....

Subj: &nbsp;Re: please e mail me back
Date: &nbsp;7/16/01 1:23:31 PM !!!First Boot!!!
From: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp;DragonLD89


Hey don't threaten me and Ive already emailed you yesterday .Yes the money order is deposited and since you said you're gonna cancel it I will wait for it to clear before I send the snakes. Don't email me threats Icould care less who you or you g-friend works for Winston. Have you had problems with me ? I know you haven't that's why you ordered from me again. As far as being on time you sent the email out late didn't you? And as far as what people HAVE SAID, I could care less .Btw who are these people Winston? You know what I done you a favor by letting you owe me money ,and now you think I'm not sending your snakes or ripping you off ,well I'll tell ya what since you seem to think that when your MONET ORDR clears my bank I'll be sending your 215 back to you.I will NOT &nbsp;deal with someone with someone who thinks I'm not honest after
1.Doing you good enough that you would deal with me again
2. Cutting you a heck of a deal
3.Let you owe me money on &nbsp;trust
4. Sending you the snakes for the price you payed and letting you owe me in a month

You know what I AM just gonna cancel this deal and send your money back. I can't belieave you came to me in this way. Thanx

Then I wrote him an apology letter

Subj: &nbsp;Re: please e mail me back
Date: &nbsp;7/16/01
To: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1


okay I was just gettign worry seeing you reading my e mail and not mailing me back.
If you want to mail the money order back that be fine with em or if you want to ship me the snake that be fine too. The reseaon that I wrote that e mail is to get your attention to e mail me back. because I tried to call you several times and no body picked up.


Thanx

Winston
and this one also

Subj: &nbsp;hey
Date: &nbsp;7/16/01
To: &nbsp;jerrytubbs1


My girlfriend wanted me to say that she didn't consent to any reference to her in my prior email and she apologizes for any offense. By the way the money order &nbsp;payment was not stopped because of a 10 day waiting period. &nbsp;I was just wondering why didn't you write me back when you read the first letter I sent with the money order and my other email? AOL said you read it on 7/15/01 at 9:41p.m. I tried to call you and email you several times after AOL said you had read the my email and I hadn't heard back from you. I just got nervous because I had just lost that money to Fred Tribbett, and then the reviews on your website, and everything. I'm sorry I was a little hasty in my reaction to not hearing from you. I would still like to recive the ball pythons, but if you want to send the money back that is fine too. Just please e mail me when you have mailed the money back or shipped the snakes.

Thank you,

Winston

then he send me this



Subj: &nbsp;Re: the new address
Date: &nbsp;7/24/01 8:26:56 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
From: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp;DragonLD89


Youwillhave it by next week. Thanks

and also this letters too recently
Subj: &nbsp; Re: Money
Date: &nbsp; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 8:33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: &nbsp; Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp; DragonLD89

Hey Winston,
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Didn't you get my email, that told you I would pay
by feb.15th? I think you did because you responded to me and said you would
wait. Am I wrong ? Thanks


this was after I asked him when is he going to pay me back

This is a very big embarrasment and that's why &nbsp;have been to ashamed to
talk to you n person . But I feel now that I owe it to you. I donot however
go on forever not payng my bills, they always get paid .It used to be in a
timely manner , but things have chamged.And I have never once said I ddn't
owe you, because I know I do . I have EVERY intention of paying you ,but I
can not write it in this email why I can't . I would be a man and step up and
call you , but I don't even have LD on the phone to do that. &nbsp;If you call me
you can curse , yell ,scream and holler ,crticize me or what ever you feel
like dong ,BUT please just don't laugh in my face &nbsp;this will take alot of
courage for me to tell you what is going on .Just please call and email me to
let me know when .

May GOD be with you as much as HE is with me. &nbsp;Thanks and sorry

I just want my money back sorry about the date confusion but it sure have felt like it wasa &nbsp;long time ago. sorry everyone. but still he owes me money taht is the bottom line I do not want any ball python. oh and Jeramiha did Jerry ask you to post on BOI to defend him cause I know he does cause he have asked me to do that couple times. he is too big of a wuss to defend himself.

AGAIN EVERYONE I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE DATE CONFUSION, I MOVED A LOT DURING THE PAST YEAR SO I LOST TRACK BUT THAT IS THE STORY.
JERRY SEE YOU AT TAMPA.

Tom, you said this "It sounds like Jerry is going to be at the Tampa show? " HOWDOES IT SOUNDLIKE THAT ? WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM ? IT JUST SHOWS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IN THE HECK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Winston and everybody else, Look at this .Winston posted this
"1st e mail
Subj: &nbsp;Re: (no subject)
Date: &nbsp;7/2/01 25:35 AM !!!First Boot!!!
From: &nbsp;Jerrytubbs1
To: &nbsp;DragonLD89 "
DO you all see the DATE of that <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???
If it was &nbsp;2000 in July &nbsp;, as he states then why on earth is the date on the email 2001 in July .Isn't that a year off as I been saying along?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Can't you people see that <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?? I know most of you do ,but I'm talking to the few here that just aren't getting it or just DON'T want to....

Like I said, I admitted to owing him , but he has changed his mind more than once, you can see that from his post on here . Here is and example of what he said in the &nbsp;"WOAH Jerry never paid me anything and I didn't want the snake anymore I just want the money back."That is from a post he made today.

So I didn't know what to do , because I didn't know what he wanted.There are many more emails and phone calls where he wanted to do one thing , then another.

Winston you have proved yourself wrong on the dates and you changing your mind , by the post you have made today.And I was giving you credit for a month or two on the balance of your purchase . But that doesn't matter.Hers is another quots of yours "Jeramiha did Jerry ask you to post on BOI to defend him cause I know he does cause he have asked me to do that couple times. he is too big of a wuss to defend himself."
I've not asked you &nbsp;before to DEFEND me , I have asked you even before you got your first shipments of snakes , that when you do get them if ya like them , than MAYBE you could post. BUT that was YOUR choice to post or not.
Now as far as the name calling , that's your choice too ,but of you come down here to my place ( like you said in your last email) I think........ NO I know I will SHOW you diffrent.

I have camers that I am going to take a pik of the airbill that you made your first order n May of 2001. You still have not answered Why did you send me money in 2001 since you say I owed you in 2000<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??? Thanks Jerry Tubbs