John Dumas - DiamondExotics - Massachusetts - THIEF SCAMMER LIAR!!!

Those dogs are sad! If you want to have them get them off chains and socialize them. All of our dogs get along great and the akita is known for being aggressive. Here is a couple of pics of happy dogs including a pit mix we rescued and found a home for.

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Cute!

Originally Posted by Karma Kritters

Those dogs are sad! If you want to have them get them off chains and socialize them. All of our dogs get along great and the akita is known for being aggressive. Here is a couple of pics of happy dogs including a pit mix we rescued and found a home for.

Well done. Very well done. Looks like a group "doggy thank you" that we all can take real comfort in. A souce of confidence in the better nature of man's appreciation of canine's, considering all the news of late. I owe you thanks for my smile.

Well guys they hit again. I received an email from another herper that has fell victim to John & Pamela. I am posting part of their email below. We really need to stop these guys or at a minimum get the word out of their scam.

Email received today (7/18/07): Hello, my name is XXXXXXX and I recently fell victim to a scam on a trade that went horribly wrong. It was supposed to involve my 06 Pewter male and 2 04 proven breeder females for her 06 pied and an 06 female spider, for which she had adds for recently posted on kingsnake. It wasn't until today that I finally realized what a huge mistake I made after reading the 15 page long forum on fauna classifieds revolving around the two of them being SCAMMERS and possibly working together to steal people's snakes. I was unaware that a John Dumas was even associated with Pamela until after I read the forum, and of course I have a feeling that it's too late. I sent my animals to her first for a Tuesday morning delivery by 10:30, expecting her to send me mine in return today, but they never came. After hours of talking between Pamela and DHL, I finally got a hold of the actual courier himself who said he specifically dropped the package off a nd it was signed for by a John Dumas at Pamela's address. Pamela addimently denies knowing any John Dumas, but I know that they are in on this whole thing, and it's so clear that they are working together after reading the forum.

Please help us get the word out on these two scammers! I don't know how they are posting on kingsnake. We are checking the ads daily for signs of either one of them.

Dwayne & Suzanne

Thanks Dennis,
For uploading the pics I know they were a little off topic but I could not resist. I am so tired of hearing about scammers. It makes it hard for us small guys to build our reputations. I hope these two get whats coming for them legally atleast. These type of people need to be outed before they can ruin this hobby for everyone.

Been following this thread as my sister and I also have an interest in apbt's...
My sister Jen, who has the site freewebs.com/blu-tiffulpitts/ agreed to spread the word to her pit friends about John, and is working on an addition to her site about people and breeders to stay away from. I hope this helps the cause... We've come across a high percentage of shady ppl in the apbt hobby
~Paul Sutter

After hours of talking between Pamela and DHL, I finally got a hold of the actual courier himself who said he specifically dropped the package off and it was signed for by a John Dumas at Pamela's address.

Is it possible you could find out from the person who emailed you, exactly what address DHL delivered to (presumably Pamela's) and get permission to post it publically? I'm sure it would benefit others to know exactly what address to avoid.

Many thanks.

~Laura Bolt

I just read Dennis' reply to the other Pamela/John Dumas thread regarding posting the 3rd party anonymous email. I'm guessing the delivery address also cannot be posted until the emailer's name is posted. Sorry about that ...

~ Laura Bolt

Originally Posted by LauraB

I just read Dennis' reply to the other Pamela/John Dumas thread regarding posting the 3rd party anonymous email. I'm guessing the delivery address also cannot be posted until the emailer's name is posted. Sorry about that ...

~ Laura Bolt

Here is the original email sent to me.

----- Original Message -----
> From: rsk7405@comcast.net
> To: sales@ddreptiles.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:21 PM
> Subject: Recent scam involving John Dumas and Pamela Mansula!!
>
>
> Hello, my name is Richard and I recently fell victim to a scam on a
> trade that went horribly wrong. It was supposed to involve my 06 Pewter male
> and 2 04 proven breeder females for her 06 pied and an 06 female spider, for
> which she had adds for recently posted on kingsnake. It wasn't until today that
> I finally realized what a huge mistake I made after reading the 15 page long
> forum on fauna classifieds revolving around the two of them being SCAMMERS and
> possibly working together to steal people's snakes. I was unaware that a John
> Dumas was even associated with Pamela until after I read the forum, and of
> course I have a feeling that it's too late. I sent my animals to her first for
> a Tuesday morning delivery by 10:30, expecting her to send me mine in return
> today, but they never came. After hours of talking between Pamela and DHL, I
> finally got a hold of the actual courier himself who said he specifically
> dropped the package off a nd it was sighned for by a John Dumas at Pamela's
> address. Pamela addimently denies knowing any John Dumas, but I know that they
> are in on this whole thing, and it's so clear that they are working together
> after reading the forum. Thanks again Rich!


Dwayne & Suzanne Bulat

but who is Richard?