Andrew Potts- I want my money back

Originally Posted by Baileykm

Now overnighting the snake was 75 dollars and jumped up to over 150 to get it there a few hours earlier. I dont even want to think about how much keeping the snake frozen would have cost to ship.

It would have been a whole lot cheaper than doubling your payment to get it there First Overnight...and it would have been money better spent, since the thawed, stinky snake was deemed undeliverable.

Originally Posted by hhmoore

It would have been a whole lot cheaper than doubling your payment to get it there First Overnight...and it would have been money better spent, since the thawed, stinky snake was deemed undeliverable.

Haha true story. Hind sight is a mofo.

Kevin, why did you decide to drag the snake through the dirt before you took pictures of it? Something about that seems really sketchy to me. As far as your buddy's opinion on the decomposition, if it did die in the box and had a heat pack in with it and got put in a heated room, that heat would greatly accelerate the decomposition process.

You need to answer a couple questions, Kevin. First, as asked above, what's with the dirtbath on that snake. That could compromise the condition of that snake in a pretty dramatic manner. That snake's rear end and head look crushed, and you dragging it through the dirt don't make it look good for you. Second, exactly what do Conner Lunz and Sean Griffis have to do with this transaction? These two have been making a spectacle of themselves by doing cute stuff like directly posting ads in forums and posting good guy posts on themselves here on the BOI.

I'm not rushing to Andrew's defense here, but there are some really shady sides to your story, and I'm not sure I'd have automatically refunded your money if I was Andrew, either. You asking for a snake valued and twice what the one you ordered was also a big red flag. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but let's explore this scenario. You figure you could order this snake, it mysteriously pass away, and you try to get a better snake to replace it. Worse comes to worse, you get your money back and you aren't out anything. I would hate to think that anyone could do that, but it's happened before and I'm sure will happen again.

At this point, I am not sure what happened, I'm looking forward to the emails that Andrew posts and would like to know what Lunz and Griffis have to do with this whole thing. I like looking critically and objectively at any situation and there are enough big time question marks in this deal that I am not comfortable just automatically assuming that Andrew owes this guy a refund.

Chris

I would have to say i agree 100%! The proof was given emedietly by the customer in a timely matter. Proffesionaly speaking i would never ask a customer to send back a corps, considering he opened the package and called emediatly taking pics and video shows his honesty and also the integrity of the package. I believe a refund or replacement is in order.

Did you see the pictures. Thier is no doubt the snake is dead!! Kevins problem is with andrew (andrew needs to solve it) and andrews problem is with the shipping company (shipping needs tobe solved it with andrews shipping co.). It is the always the shippers responsibilty if it happens in transit, its just good business ethics. Now if Kevin would not have been thier to sign for the package and would not have openned it right away it would have fallen back on him (kevin), BUT every thing was done right on kevins end. SO it falls back on the person who shipped it (andrew)

Originally Posted by barbie

Did you see the pictures. Thier is no doubt the snake is dead!! Kevins problem is with andrew (andrew needs to solve it) and andrews problem is with the shipping company (shipping needs tobe solved it with andrews shipping co.). It is the always the shippers responsibilty if it happens in transit, its just good business ethics. Now if Kevin would not have been thier to sign for the package and would not have openned it right away it would have fallen back on him (kevin), BUT every thing was done right on kevins end. SO it falls back on the person who shipped it (andrew)

*don't see*

Animals shouldn't die in transit. Period. Done right with 1" in an oversized box... Proper weather check on both ends.. It doesn't happen! Stop shipping if you're killing animals!

Oh wait! I know why now.. Everybody hates $75-$100 shipping quotes.. So cutthroat breeders slam stuff in 1/4" laced boxes, as small as they can be, make it a $49 shipping add on, and Bingo! You're snake is dead!

before anyone else thinks im in favor for the breeder with this situation, i am not. All im saying is that if it were me i would have done a little more to protect myself so i could say, "hey ive done all i could"! as for the tod, you'd be suprised how fast a body can deteriorate under the right conditions, which is why you should refridgerate the body (not freeze it) to slow the process. Live and learn because people will try to screw you for their own personal gain and im not saying you dont deserve a full refund because you do.