DAN BIFIELD! HORRIBLE BUSINESS ETHICS!!!

Ups will allow "lizards" only if you are a recognized and approved account with them.
Airborne will allow Tortoise shipments.
USPS allows lizards and turtlele, and tortoises, but absolutely NO SNAKES nor arachnids of any kind.
The only carriers that allow the shipping of snakes are Delta, US AIR, and other airlines that ship AIR CARGO. Delta and US AIR have no real regulation against shipping snakes. Delta does make it where you have to be a known shipper to them before you can ship snakes, where as US AIR has not care about that. They must inspect the contents of th box before the box is sealed in front of them.

Just for the record Airborne does allow shipping live tortoises also. I have marked Airbills as such, have been asked about the contents and have never had a problem.

I just recieved this e-mail from Dan.

"Matt send the snakes back or blow me.You will not get one dime out of me until you send the snakes back."

DAN

Thats very cute Dan.  You are pathetic.  I realize now that you dont care about your name in the business, and realize we've lost some money.  I'll accept that, but i'll never let your name go clear.  At least now people can see what kind of a joke you really are.

Matt.

Matthew,
Simlpy copy and paste all the emails that this guy has sent you.  Use the quote option here to highlite them.  Prove all your points and place the balling back in him.  LOL  


If you need help doing it forward them to me at suticat@insight.rr.com and I will get them up for you.

I've already deleted one of Dan's replies to this thread due to his use of explicatives. If you do paste his emails here, I ask that you please edit the profanity before posting, as I'll be in either Paris or Monaco this weekend, and won't be around a computer.

Thanks

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----- Original Message -----
From: EXOTIC PETS (Dan)
To: Matt Butler
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: deal gone bad


Matt send the snakes back or me.You will not get one dime out of me until you send the snakes back.

DAN
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Butler
To: EXOTIC PETS (Dan)
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: deal gone bad


Dan, what did you think all that money was for? spam_We dont ship snakes to somebodies porch, especially not when they cost almost 4000 dollars. spam_We ship delta, and delta is what was asked for. spam_You know you were supposed to call Jeremy before you shipped them. spam_You failed to do that. spam_You packaged them wrong! spam_And the female albino is sick. spam_The younger snake could have been crushed. spam_If i thought you would actually return his money, id have him send them to you. spam_Seeing you business ethics, i seriously doubt youd ever refund any of the money. spam_If you want to make this right, send him his money back that he paid for shipping, all 200 of it. spam_He shouldnt owe you a dime for shipping, as you didnt ship the way he specified. spam_Next is my concern for the animals. spam_The fact that they sat on the porch for nearly 10 hrs is reason enough to be examined by a vet. spam_That i feel you should also pay for. spam_

Matt.
----- Original Message -----
From: EXOTIC PETS (Dan)
To: Matt Butler
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: deal gone bad


I told Jeremy I would ship the next day upon cashing his M.O. and I did.The albino was not dripping and fluids when I sent her out.If you want a refund send me the snakes back.I never told your friend i would ship via air port so don't say things you don't know the truth about.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Butler
To: epets@dansexoticpets.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: deal gone bad


spam_Hey Dan, when you are ready to work this out, e-mail me, or call Jeremy. spam_The Board of inquiries is waiting for a response. spam_You shipped the snake wrong, you didnt notify Jeremy of the shipment, and you packaged them wrong. spam_Not to mention, the adult albino is dripping fluid from her mouth. spam_E-mail me, and maybe we can make this right.

Matt Butler and Jeremy McKirdy.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I received an email this morning from Dan stating:

Listen you little ****.That DH for snow came from Griff/LA snake here in florida.Griff is in lawenforcment.Go back to your little ******* life you ******* looser..

Hey Dan, all I did was express doubt that someone as shady as you appearantly are could have quality herps advertised correctly. &nbsp;Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while, though. &nbsp;If you have sold DH animals, fine, but I wouldn't trust you at all based on the way you've handled yourself on and off the BOI.

Oh, and by the way, I don't take a cussing very well. &nbsp;I hope we get to meet someday. &nbsp;I'd love for you to say things like that to my face. &nbsp;I don't think you really would, though. &nbsp;It's been my experience that weasels who hide behind their computer screens are not so tough when they are actually standing in front of the man they've been cussing through email. &nbsp;

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Dan,
&nbsp; &nbsp; You are very unprofessional! &nbsp;Using profanity in your dealings and not refunding a ridiculous amount for shipping.
&nbsp; &nbsp; I think Dan showed us how he does business by himself, he is a loser! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Matt I feel you are an upstanding person and I think you will get nothing out of this guy but insults and excuses, I also think if you were to send the snakes back you wouldn't get a dime, so keep them try to get them better I know you shouldn't have to, but you care for their well being and I applaude you for that. &nbsp;I also wouldn't let him forget, every time you took them to the vet I would copy the bill and send it to him just so he can be reminded the he is scum.
&nbsp; &nbsp; As to the shipping I have shipped numerous times and our airborne guy new exactly what was inside and all I had to put on the box was "Live harmless reptile" &nbsp;Granted not all airborne guy was like mine LOL <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So, in summary Dan has definatley dropped a bomb on his reputation here and in the exotic cat hobby.

I got a lovely e-mail too..

"Step up at a show with your looser comments.What do you have in your collection."

And I was trying to help the guy out by saying it might not be statuatory rape.
It must feel nice to have your reptile career to be over as soon as it starts.

Erin Benner

You gotta wonder....
With dan's use of the vocabulary...
His alleged threats to Jeremy.....
The wonderful care he gives reptiles....
The great consideration he gives to shipping.....
The cost of said shipping......
Spelling..splelled loser wrong....it's not 'looser'
You just gotta wonder , dan living here in Michigan and all...
....Could he be a friend of Robert Carr....
please stop me <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp; <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>