Howlin' Gale Dragons

I have had people tell me they are almost friendly to a fault Aaron simply picked the wrong time to jump the gun in such a manor there was truly no reason for a BOI on a minor thing like this.

Amazing, now aaron is supposed to know what is going on in your life?? Your really going to blame him for this??

Not professional? I'm not the one acting like a know-it-all Seamus saying draongs NEVER bite thier toes off they do I've herd of many cases of it Aaron said he was never going to ask for a refund I originally was going to give one but I jsut can't see doing that after a BOI on something so minor being posted he got an apology like he asked for Now stop your petty mud slinging

not what YOU FELT was the best.

I never said it was the best I was not picking the dragon he was

Here is what I Will do

AARON

I am sorry she came with a nip I truly do not think it happened here I am VERY anal about my dragons to the point some breeders call me nuts as they think keeps groups of no more then 5 is a waste of room. My tanks are safe I custom built them for babies as I wanted to give them the best start to life (Smooth Wood, no areas to catch toe nails what not and easy to clean [Too many horror stories of diseases in colonies with other breeders] ) I will say you said I gave you a guarantee yes I did though it really dose not cover this situation it is just if dragons comes ill (URI/Coccidia/Other things) Not nip/abrasions just so we are clear there. Also Pick of the Clutch to me may be very different then others see we all have different opinions buy to me Pick of the clutch means that whoever buys it gets to pick first baby even before me it doesn't mean babies perfect, best looking, what not I sold pick of the clutch once before this and the buyer bought a baby missing half a tail they where fully told of it and they didn't care they just loved the color.

I admit it COULD have happened here though I Don't feel it did I am NOT denying there isn't a wound I never denied it nor would I as I'm not blind but honestly that looks like some kind of abrasion like from rubbing or catching it in something it will heal if you keep it clean (Betadine Scrubs + Neosporn) Most of the time in a nip they lose whatever it was I have a female dragon with half a tail, one male with only two toes on one foot but it never effects them it's just cosmetic. Not saying it doesn't effect look of dragons just doesn't effect the health or quality of life which is most important and she is a GREAT looking dragon with a great personality. If you buy another dragon from me down the road I will give you a deal on it though it will be a bit before I have much for sale I have two more weeks give or take a few days before anything hatches out as I stagger my clutches so usually I am not raising more the one clutch at a time that gives me more time to give attention to my current babies.


All those run on sentences and incorrect punctuation was giving me a headache .

This thread is not about my grammar

Did I say he was suppose to know about the death? Nope He should not have gone to the BOI in a matter of hours that is not enough time to work anything out if he would have waited I would have had time to chill over my friends death but it seems that all people care about on the boi is making them selves look oh so wronged and make people look like crap instead of giving proper time and patients

Originally Posted by HowlinGaleDragons

Not professional? I'm not the one acting like a know-it-all Seamus saying draongs NEVER bite thier toes off they do I've herd of many cases of it

You specifically said that they bite their own toes off from shipping stress... which is an absurdity.

If they're chewing on their own foot, you should look for... get this... foot problems. An irritant, an injury, sloughing rolls that are causing circulation issues and clotting... It's not that they would never chew on their own feet, it's that they never chew on their own feet without some underlying reason. A symptom and a cause aren't identical and your deductive leap from one anecdotal personal experience of foot chewing (undiagnosed apparently) to "it happens as a result of shipping" is just... so monumentally short sighted and narrow minded as to be laughable.

Or it would be laughable if you weren't using it as a flimsy excuse to dick over a customer.

Originally Posted by Mooing Tricycle

yeah... i just shook my head at that one..... Tried typing up a response.... but you know, you can only talk to a brick wall for so long.

That's about where I am on this one. Every time I read yet another response and how entirely stupid it sounds I just can't even begin to come up with anything to respond with.

I'm not dicking anyone over he is just as wrong as I was and I work with a very good Reptile vet she has seen many dragons damage themselves from shipping you are narrow minded thinking it can never happen maybe you should spend some time with a reptile vet learn some things.

Originally Posted by HowlinGaleDragons

Did I say he was suppose to know about the death? Nope He should not have gone to the BOI in a matter of hours that is not enough time to work anything out if he would have waited I would have had time to chill over my friends death but it seems that all people care about on the boi is making them selves look oh so wronged and make people look like crap instead of giving proper time and patients

I'm just going to quote my own post at you, since you didn't seem to get it the first time.

The buyer did not jump the gun. You told him, in absolute terms, with no room for uncertainty, in a way that did not invite further exploration of the topic that you were not at fault and would not discuss the issue. You closed the communication through your adamant and unwavering responses. As far as your position was, from the posted emails, you had refused to acknowledge his dissatisfaction and ended any further discussion.

Was he supposed to assume you were lying when you responded and keep pushing you? Was he supposed to wait around for a few days after you blew him off just to see if you'd randomly change your mind and get back to him?

He told you it was present when the animal was inspected shortly after arrival. That means it either happened in your care or during shipping (although the "beardies bite their own toes off from stress" argument is absolutely idiotic- completely and utterly removed from anything factual and frankly one of the dumbest things I have seen written on this site since Scolaro was banned), either way it would be your responsibility as a dealer to address the problem... the problem that was brought to your attention inside your own stated guarantee period.